1. Hookfin's time was probably severely hurt when he couldn't decide which direction to run.
  2. Yeah, Hook probably got turned around.
  3. I said most.. that 6'3, 170 lbs wr that bulks up to 200, he slows down.. that 6'2 220 lbs linebacker who adds 20 lbs, he slows down... and most runningbacks add weight and slow down as well... you talk about exceptions.. im talking about the majority.
  4. Your right, its more about the stopwatch than anything else. When a person is hand-timed, they will always run faster times. It has something to do with reaction times, the anticipation of the timer, and the starting the time correctly at the start. I work some high school track meets, normally in the sprints hand times are consistently .2 to .3 seconds faster than what the athletes run electronically timed in the state meet. The difference is probably a little bit lower in the forty, but there is still a difference. I would be suspect of anyone in HS who claims to run sub 4.4, unless its someone like X. Carter or T. Holliday, guys who have also run insanely fast on the track.
  5. I still don't agree with your majority slowing down. I think it's fabricated HS times vs. legit times at the combines or at pro day's. Have you ever heard of the speed of the game slowing down at the college level & then slowing down even more in the NFL. Most athletes are at their physical prime between the ages of 24-28. What do you think our S&C coaches are doing with these kids?(making them slower than when they came out of HS). I don't think so.
  6. For those that doubt Bradie's time (and that's fine, I don't believe everything I hear either) keep in mind that he weighed a shade over 200 his junior year in HS. That's a far cry from his combine weight and I'm sure it was exaggerrated a bit, just like they all are.

    One of the more respect members of another forum is friends with Maurice Greene's training partner. She (training partner) claims that Maurice Greene can't break 4.4 in the forty and doubts that anyone can by the standards that track athletes use. Take it for what it's worth.
  7. Here's a good article for those obsessed with speed.

    The need for speed
    By Bob Harris, Special to CNNSI.com

    Posted: Thursday September 05, 2002 1:51 PM

    Don’t let the title fool you folks. This column isn’t a discussion of how the NFL’s ban on ephedrine and certain other stimulants will affect guys like Shannon Sharpe and Bill Romanowski.

    I’m talking about the overwhelming need for physical speed; the league-wide obsession with finding guys capable of getting from Point A to Point B faster than the other guy.

    Just ask any NFL head coach, or better yet, ask one of the league's defensive coordinators what costs him the most sleep during the course of a given season?

    I'd be willing to bet nine out of 10 give you the same one word answer: "Speed."

    That's because coaches -- guys who put dinner on the table by making it their business to know this kind of stuff -- realize that speed is the real "difference maker" in the NFL. >>Read the article.
  8. The only two athletes to run sub 4.3 times at the NFL combine were Deon Sanders and Bo Jackson....that is, until this year. Supposed a kid from one of the Ivy League schools ran the same 4.2+ clock to tie the Sanders/Jackson record.

    Running a 4.3 in workout gear is a helluva lot different than trying to do it in full pads with a helmet, and Bo could do it legitimately......just ask Brian Bosworth :hihi:
  9. Not sure if you read the article I posted or not, but it doesn't agree with you. Also, Bo Jackson and Deion Sanders ran before they started using electronic timing and starts. That makes a good bit of difference.