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http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/28/2846.asp

Louisiana: Speed Camera Company Runs Litter Camera Program
Speed camera maker sets up program allowing Baton Rouge, Louisiana to issue $167 automated litter tickets.

Speed camera vendor American Traffic Solutions (ATS) next month will use its automated ticketing expertise to run a litter camera program for Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Under first-of-its-kind initiative, city workers will drive around photographing neighborhoods with special cameras hooked into a Global Positioning System (GPS) satellite tracking device. The workers will be looking to capture homes that might have litter, weeds or trash on their lawn so that a hefty fine can be imposed.

"The mayor's office has put together a new enforcement program with a tough new ordinance and the high-tech services of American Traffic Solutions, the company under contract to operate the city-parish's red-light monitoring system," the mayor's office said in a statement. "ATS already uses video from cameras posted at key intersections to generate violation notices for the owners of vehicles that illegally run red lights."

Fifteen "code enforcement specialists" this week began training on the program in which they will drive around looking to issue tickets to homeowners. The code specialists are paid at least $12.49 an hour and must have a valid driver's license, a GED and some experience working in construction to be hired. ATS will download the images that these specialists generate and then use an automated computer system to generate warning letters, tickets and hearing notices similar to those used in the traffic camera program.

When "construction materials, litter, refuse, rubbish, appliances, junk vehicles, limbs, trees or other discarded materials or debris" are photographed at a home, a letter will be sent to the last address of record for the property owner. The situation must be remedied within fifteen days to escape the ticket. The penalty imposed by the program is the same as a red light camera citation -- $117 plus "court costs" of $50. If the owner is on vacation or the address on file is incorrect, Baton Rouge will hold a "litter court" administrative hearing where a municipal employee will find that it is "more probable than not" that the missing property owner is guilty. Residents will also be ticketed for putting out garbage cans before 4pm or failing to retrieve them before 6am.

The ticket vans start rolling on August 1 and the litter court hearings open September 17.
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KyleK Who, me? Staff Member

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I actually like this one. Keep your dang yard clean and keep my property value high! Giving the owner 15 days to clean it up is reasonable. I would think this would help w/ crime also. Cleaner neighborhood, less crime. I like it. I think I will bring it up at our next city council meeting.

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I'm for this one as well. Read KyleK's post....I ditto that.

mctiger, Aug 4, 2009

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I actually like this one. Keep your dang yard clean and keep my property value high! Giving the owner 15 days to clean it up is reasonable. I think I will bring it up at our next city council meeting.
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When it comes to things like this I like to ask myself if I have the right to make another person do it. And if the answer is no. Then I cannot make my agent, the government, do it for me.

Example, I have one car and the smiths' have two cars and the Jonhsons' have no cars. Do I have the right to go to the smiths' house and take one of their cars and give it to the Johnsons'. Well of course not that would be me stealing from the smiths'. So in this case the answer is no.

Now lets apply it to this new law.
I see the smith havent taken the garbage can in the garage. Do I have the right to go on their property and put their garbage can in their drive way? Of course not. That would be trespassing, so do I have the right to tell the government to tell them to do it for me. Of course not.

Also if you want people to stand up for your rights then you need to stand up for their rights, for example if you neighbors like for you to have your lights out after nine but you dont get a chance to cook dinner before then because of work. Then would that be fair to you? Of course not.

Some other important things to remember is that its their personal property and I dont have the right to tell other people to do on their own property. Thats what America was founded on.
If you dont like when people do these things listed in the article you must take on the personal responsibility and find out for yourself if the people around you will live the way you want them to. You cant move in and start bossing people around.

I hope you found this informative.:usaflagwa

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Tiger10 said: ↑

I hope you found this informative.:usaflagwa
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I found it pretty asinine.

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I found it pretty asinine.
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Usually liberals say that about my post, but they say the same thing about the Constitution, so I wont lose any sleep.

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Well I guess I'll be your exception for the day. Your post sounded pretty liberal to me.

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Well I guess I'll be your exception for the day. Your post sounded pretty liberal to me.
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Whats liberal about not wanting the gov. going around telling people how to live? In this case how to manage their property.

Tiger10, Aug 5, 2009

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When a person starts to hurt (any any fashion) another person then we start have a problem.

I for one like this new deal. What I don't like is the camera van.

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Finally Red will have to clean his frakkin yard!

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