Laws need to change

Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by Sourdoughman, Mar 26, 2005.

  1. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    We have so many laws in our Justice system that are out dated or just plain
    doesn't make any sense.

    1) The Terri Shiavo Case, In this type of case the husband's rights should be
    taken away when he decided to get involved with another woman unless her parents are dead.
    The Sanctity of marriage that some cry over were violated once he started
    a relationship with another woman.
    The answer to this kind of thing we can agree is a will.

    My second point is pedophiles in this country.
    They are let out of jail time and time again admitting that they are not rehabilitated, some of them never took any therapy while in jail such as
    Brent J Brents, Couey, who killed that poor little girl this past week.
    Couey has done this up to 25 times.

    It is my opinion that the law makers and our leader have dropped the ball to
    protect all of us including the weakest among us including our children and
    disabled Americans.

    The Constitution?
    http://www.archives.gov/national_archives_experience/charters/constitution_transcript.html
    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

    How is our Justice today?
    How about domestic tranquility and general welfare?

    Not very good if you have children right now with all the murders and pedophiles running loose out there.

    How good is our justice system?
    A voluntary system is in place for pedophiles to register near you, how does
    that make us feel, safer?

    The borders are part of the problem, we aren't being protected by our leaders, today they are gutless and worthless just like the judicial system!

    A little negative?
    Yep, not normally this negative but most of this is the truth.
    We no longer have the leaders in this country we once did!
     
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    What? I can't agree with this at all. No one's rights should ever be taken away for political reasons. This is America.

    This is a FAMILY DECISION. Ask anybody who has ever gone through this. If there is a dispute within the family, then a judge must interpret the law and make a ruling. Then everyone must accept it. Every judge has ruled exactly the same on this case, all the way to the top because the law is clear.

    Just because someone isn't happy with the law, is no reason for politicians to illegally attempt to interfere in a family matter. Do we really want to change the laws so that some politician can take away our rights as a citizen and our responsibilities to our families for political capital? Where would it all stop?
     
  3. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    Political Reasons?
    I fail to see what political reasons has to do with this situation.
    I also fail to see how every court has upheld this ruling on a matter of hearsay.
    I never knew hearsay could be used in a court of law.
    In this affadavits are ignored and hearsay is taken like its the law.
    Its a matter between an ex-husband and Terri's family.
    Michael is an ex-husband because of common law marriage.

    To you it may be about politics but to me its about life and death of a disabled person.
    I've seen Terri's brain scan and heard a neurologist describe it, she isn't brain dead.
    If this was the case why didn't Michael do this the first 7 years?
    There is too much dispute in this case and this is wrong.

    We now live in a society about death instead of life and it shows.
    I can't believe all the people that want this woman to die.
    In the old days she would've been hooked up until an investigation of the dispute would be carried out to find out the truth.
    The Truth no longer matters.

    Politics? Don't forget some democrats agreed with this.
    Sad, people have to think these things, its about morality not politics, thats why democrats also voted for this!
     
  4. LSUGradin99

    LSUGradin99 I Bleedeth Purple 'N Gold

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    This thread:
    Another thread:
    I'm confused. :confused:
     
  5. LSUGradin99

    LSUGradin99 I Bleedeth Purple 'N Gold

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    .... or you are confused?
     
  6. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    I said this because I was angry.
    I know you want to discredit and attack me but i really don't care anymore.
    Its what you want.

    Mostly, all things are about politics in this world.
    People have agendas, if you don't believe it maybe you should go talk to someone else.
    The news networks and their anchors and reporters report the news from
    their side of politics, Dan Rather, Fox News, etc.
    Your either pro-life or pro-choice, no ones neutral?
    School professors teach to their philosophy and give out lesser grades for
    students that don't agree with them.
    All lawyers, big businesses lobby and contribute to their political side.
    One of Michael Schaivo's attorneys contributed to Judge Greer btw.
    Even doctors, Dr. Downing delivered my first son, he was just found to be doing abortions and stuffing fetuses down a disposal.
    Hollywood, pro sports players, Schilling supporting Bush.
    Even you and I have agendas, I don't know what yours is but I'm against
    abortion in most cases except for rape and endangerment of the mother.
    Look at the world around you?

    Look, when it comes to life and death politics generally don't play a factor
    when everyone has family and kids at home and don't want to be in the position as the Schindlers are.

    Most people realize these things as they get older, I have restrained from
    talking to you about this and figured you might find out for yourself one day.
    I'm hoping 1 day U will get it. :dis:
    Why don't you ask some members here or go talk to them?

    Yes, I'm angry right now about this Terry Schiavo case.
    The true colors of Michael Schiavo and his attorneys started to come out today in case you haven't noticed.
     
  7. LSUGradin99

    LSUGradin99 I Bleedeth Purple 'N Gold

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    I have no idea what to think after reading your comments from post to post. You quite simply confused me. I am not one of the people on here debating you back and forth. I have no interest in discrediting you.

    You just seem to be very upset and ranting, intstead of your usual courteous and well-thought out discussions.
     
  8. CParso

    CParso Founding Member

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    True, to an extent. I would agree with having the rights transferred to the parents or a close relative because once her husband has another woman etc, they aren't really married anymore. Yes, a will would solve this problem.

    This kinda thing happens when we let people like John Kerry or George W run for office. The mayor of New Orleans has public records of beating his wife. The governor of Louisiana cheated to get elected into a previous office. Americans bring this on themselves by not being informed and allowing subpar politicians.




    Judges have ruled time & time again that Terri's parents have NOT presented sufficient evidence that Terri is capable of interaction with the world. They haven't even come close. They have resorted to last minute pleas that suggest Terri said "I WANT TO LIVE" (or some such thing) when they took the feeding tube out. The parents aren't acting rationally, they are acting emotionally. Whether people want to believe it or not, Terri is brain dead. Michael didn't know that 7 years ago. That's why he won $100,000 ($700,000 was set aside strictly for her care but has been used up) from suing doctors that lied to him about Terri's condition. He wouldn't have been awarded that money had Terri not been brain dead.
     
  9. mesquite tiger

    mesquite tiger Diabolical Genius

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    1. even though the husband has another woman, he is still legally married to Terri. Since Terri is in a "persistent vegitative state" and unable to think and act on her own accord, she is incapible of legally divorcing her husband or having her marriage annuled by the Catholic Church. So LEGALLY, the husband is her gaurdian since the contract of marriage is still in place......you cannot fault the guy for moving on after almost 20 years.

    also, you mention the appels being denied on hearsay. exactly what hearsay is this? i have yet to hear about this hearsay being the reason the appeals are denied. please explain.

    2. As for pedophiles, they should all be chinese watr tortured for a month of so, then burned at a stake. THEY ARE THE SCUM OF THE EARTH.
     
  10. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    When I talk about hearsay, What I mean is that supposedly Terri told Michael and or his family only that she wouldn't want to live in a vegetative state.
    The judge somehow believes this, I haven't seen any evidence but its funny all of this has only come from Michaels side.

    Some of you say she is brain dead, not according to the brain scan I saw on Fox News
    along with numerous doctors and nurses.
    Even If I give you the benefit of the doubt, there still is a dispute.
    I didn't know we killed or executed people during a dispute, we don't do that to the
    worst in our society.

    Believing Terri told Michael and or his family is hearsay.
    The judge believes this over affidavits from numerious doctors and nurses saying quite
    the opposite, according to them Terri isn't in a persistant vegetative state.

    I do not fault Michael for moving on, I just think he might not have Terri's best interest
    at heart.
    I agree with you on 1 Mesquite but thats why I say that maybe the law should be looked at and probably changed for special circumstances like this.
    He is married also to this other woman by common law marriage.

    If we are unsure of the situation and there is a dispute we should err on the side of life until we make absolutely sure we are doing the right thing.

    Btw Michaels side are starting to show their true colors IMHO.
    Saying Terri looks beautiful and peaceful.
    Beautiful? Did someone from a Nazi death camp look beautiful.

    Happy Easter everyone!
     

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