Just how reliable are some of these recruiting "gurus"?

I have continued to read on certain websites how there are no OL recruits in Louisiana this year however just doing a tiny bit of research, I have come across several OL recruits in Louisian who are big-time recruits. When I asked questions about this situation an listed the examples of Louisiana players who are being recruited by MAJOR Football programs, my post and question was deleted.

I am linking a story about 1 such player who is definitely being heavily recruited.

While I am not alarmed by the LSU recruitment of OL prospects from out of state I do think that it is a little unusual that LSU is offering OL prospects
scholarships this early who were 2nd team All-District players as juniors in Colorado and are being recruited by Colorado State, Purdue, etc.
It seems that LSU should be after major national recruits if we are going to go 1,000 miles to offer a kid this early.

For whatever reason, some of the recruiting "gurus" have taken the position that Louisiana doesn't have ANY OL prospects who can play at the D1A level.
This isn't true and It appears that the "grass is always greener" philosophy has been adopted by some of these services.

Here's a link.

http://lsu.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=391952

 

Linked info doesn't tell me much. Could you summarize ? Thanks.

 

Sounds like Tigerbait to me. I heard Scarboro on Songy yesterday and he said that Louisiana has no major OLine prospects in state that LSU would offer. What about the kid from Evangel, the kid from East St. John? Both of those kids are national recruits but most think that the kid from Evangel will go to Ole Miss bc of his uncle and his dad played/went to UM. I think Scarboro is lazy and doesn't do his homework while raking in the Rivals $$$$. That is why I dc'd my subscription that I had for nearly 3 years last month among other reasons.

 

JMO, the credibility of various recruiting gurus varies extremely widely, especially when ranking programs relative to the quality of their classes. I pay little or no attention to the rankings because they fail in two primary areas. One, they fail to factor in for non-qualifiers and two, they miserably fail to factor programs that recruit for need only or those that "defensively recruit" (grab a player to prevent a key rival from getting him).

On the plus side, the recruiting services offer a plethora of readily accessable information on even the lesser known players, so I subscribe to several. And this accomplishes their primary goal - to sell subscriptions :yelwink2:

Phil Steele is reasonably good for information on the athletes and their potential to contribute, but like the others tends to fail with his predictions, which impacts credibility.

 

The guru's can't know everything of course but they do know pretty much. And much of what they base their op[inions on are what the recruits themselves tell them. If they talk to all of the high profile OL in the state and none of them are being offered by major programs, than that would be a sign that the state is down in that area.

As for a guy being a second team all district or all region, I sure wouldn't worry about that. Many of the high school sports writers don't even see any of these players, probably most of them. If the staff is going after a guy hard and offers him I'm sure they feel the guys has top notch potential.

 

Here is a good article about an OL recruit from B.R......

Apparently Jimbo is interested in this kid and has been for a while.
Pretty good info but once again when this was brought to the attention of the "guru" my post was deleted.

There are Louisiana kids who are being recruited as OL prospects.

I am an LSU fan but I am not a "homer" that simply buys into everything LSU does without question. What my original question was about LSU's recruiting so far this season centered around the OL recruits and commitments we are getting early on.

The player from Texas may be a great player yet his credentials are as a 2nd team all-district player and 3rd team all-Houston Metro.

The player LSU apparently has offered from Colorado was a 2nd team All-District player in Colorado last year. There are some D1A offers that this kid has received but the traditional schools who recruit nationally every year haven't shown any interest. None of them. FSU, Tennessee, UCLA, USC, OU,
Notre Dame, Miami are all missing from his list of offers and are obvious by their absence. He has offers from Colorado, Colorado state, Oregon, Purdue, and LSU.

My question was/is simple. If LSU is going to take a more national recruiting philosophy and go after OL recruits in particular then why aren't we offering the higher rated recruits first before offering/taking commitments from players who are considered national recruits before we go 1,000 miles to offer a
2nd team all-district player from Colorado. This kid may be great but so far the OL recruiting seems to be going after kids who aren't that highly sought after. JMO.

See link.
http://lsu.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=389162

 

Re: Here is a good article about an OL recruit from B.R......

I thought Miles said we weren't going to go outside of a 5 hour radius of Louisiana unless the recruits show interest in us. Does this mean that this Colorado kid has showed interest in LSU prior to LSU recruiting him?

STRIPES, I think you make a good point. If we are going to offer scholarships, they should be to the best OL we can get. However, I don't think any of us can tell how good these guys are right now or how much potential they show. We have to rely on the coaches for that, but it is perhaps a little nerve racking that these kids aren't being offered by other programs that recruit nationally.

 

Re: Here is a good article about an OL recruit from B.R......

Not everyone pays to use Rivals. It makes no sense to complain here about your post being deleted on Rivals since most of us don't pay to look at the boards.

 

Recruiting Gurus are like Hurricane Experts - they get a closer look than anyone else, but there is no crystal ball...

 

Re: Here is a good article about an OL recruit from B.R......

Here's a thought. Maybe Mile's staff sees something in the kid that the others don't. Maybe it's the coup of the century. Your "grass is greener" argument works both ways. ND or Miami fans may be wondering why LSU offers the kid and they don't. It's all good fodder for debate but no conclusions can be drawn until the guy puts on the pads and plays against the competition.