It can (will?) happen here.

Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by SabanFan, Feb 10, 2009.

  1. saltyone

    saltyone So Mote It Be

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    We can tell if you're lying.
     
  2. Deceks7

    Deceks7 Founding Member

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    When I came home from London I did not have to take off my shoes until I entered the US.

    Every time the train or tube left a station I heard a recorded message about unattended bags.

    CCTV was everywhere.

    I didn't feel safer, saw signs warning about thieves and pickpockets everywhere. If they could operate so freely, a covert terrorist had a chance to do something.

    More than once I saw constables carrying automatic weapons. In a country where public display of guns is rare, that stood out. Next time I will petition to bring my own firearms in case they need help, maybe I could pick off a pickpocket or two. Sounds like jolly good sport.

    At least in the US I can be armed.
     
  3. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    For how long?
    Once they shut up opposition with the fairness doctrine I'm sure guns will be next!:mad:
     
  4. DRC

    DRC TigerNator

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    I was sitting beside a Brit on a flight from Dallas to Vancouver a few years ago. He was a security guy who had been training with TSA. We were talking about airport security and he said in England, how ever many security people you noticed was only a third of those working. The rest were monitoring cameras or in plain cloths.
     
  5. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    Calm down skippy, it was a hypothetical retort. I know you would love to waterboard me, but Im no terrorist.:hihi:
     
  6. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Vood you like a cigarette, old man? :hihi:
     
  7. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    :hihi::hihi:
    yes
     
  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Now that's more like it. :thumb:
     
  9. Beaux-Bo

    Beaux-Bo Founding Member

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    Bush was at least straight with us regarding his stance on the "war on terror". We are going to proactive versus reactive. Offense versus defense. Right or wrong that was his game plan and everyone (including the bad guys) knew it.

    What is Obama's game plan? Is it clear? I think not.

    He says only the army filed manual can be used by our intelligence agencies trying to interrogate or treat prisoners. But quietly he not only allows Bush's tactic of Rendition, he has expand it, and defended it in court this week. Why is the press not talking about this? The liberals were floored this week when Obama campaigned on the principle that Rendition was wrong and evil and he would stop it, now this week he supported it in a court of law.

    What are the administrations plan to fight this war? You either play offense or defense. If you sit on the fence you will get knocked off. Look at Vietnam.

    You bring every tool in your tool box to a fight. You do not have to use Nuclear weapons, but the threat that you might (no matter how slim) helps.

    You go to a knife fight and decide to leave your gun at home, why? Because this is a knife fight not a gun fight. You get to the fight and the other gun brings out a gun. Where is yours? Hang on, let me go ask congress if I can have my gun. No time… Bang you are dead.

    Now when we interrogate bad guys they all now know we can not even play good cop / bad cop. What is left? Rendition? That is fence straddling. “Hey we did not water board to get the info, the Jordanians did”. What is the difference?

    Take a freakin stand. Be a man. Sorry ladies, fence straddling is not a way to win a war or fix an economy. If you don’t want pork in the bill stand up and say no ****in pork. Don’t let Pelosi/Reid do your dirty work, and you say “when has a bill ever come out of DC with no pork?” If you are for change then be for change all the time, not just when it is politically correct. Quit fence straddling.
     
  10. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    On the contrary:

    It's been on his website for a year now.


    I have no idea what you are trying to say here, but Obama has been adamant all through his campaign that the front on the war against terror is on the Afghanistan/Pakistan border where the Taliban and Al-Qaida fight us still. He is already sending more combat brigades there to engage the people who attacked us on 9/11 instead of nation-building in Iraq.

    The CIA outlawed waterboarding internally in 2006. Obama will not reinstate the practice of overtly torturing prisoners.
     

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