Who is flying off the handle? You challenged me to explain my position without Googling up a reference. Which I did. It ain't my fault if it turned out to be hard to for you to contradict. Logic is that way at times. I'm not angry when I'm being a cynical smartass, its just a debate style. And you are a worthy debator, deserving of my best shots. Nor am I being personally judgemental when I refer to blind adherence to authority as "Hitler Youth", just being sarcastic. Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it. :grin:
The flying off the handle part was more of a reference to a couple of previous posts; you have to admit your are a bit touchy when the word liberal is used (even when it's not directed at you, and directed at true liberals). The Hitler youth thing - I don't blindly adhere to authority; remeber I voted against John Kerry in the last election. You refer to me a right-wing neo-con, martin calls me a communist. To each his own I guess As for the creation thing, I am perfectly aware Christianity is faith-based. Definition - in the absence tangible evidence, some things have to be accepted on faith. (didn't even go to dictionary.com, phrased that myself ) Therefore, arguing science vs. religion is apples to oranges, science can't explain everything; the religious will explain the unexplainable by faith. The two groups can debate all day, but the debate will be a never-ending circle. The point, there are millions of people in this country who believe in some form of creationism. Based on this, the theory at least deserves mention when the topic arises in the classroom. That being said, I don't think a teacher should attempt to explain it. It should be left up to the student to research it from there and form their own opinion.
:rofl: :rofl: Laugh all you want, buddy. It's not going to formulate an argument for you. You have to do that yourself. :rofl: :rofl:
You just explained why creationism, and should not be, taught in public schools. Saying 'the religious will explain the unexplainable by faith' is an admission that there is no scientific evidence to support the claims. Why should something be taught, oh, excuse me, 'discussed' in schools that has no educational basis? So what? Do they believe that because some teacher 'mentioned' it one day? No. They believe that because of their dogmatic upbringing.
" Perhaps you'd like to share your absolute proof with the rest of us." marc there is a book i think you should read, called "the blind watchmaker" by richard dawkins. i really liked it, and i think it will help you with some of the misunderstandings of science that are a problem for intelligent design advocates.
On this point we can agree, I do not advocate banning of the study of creationism. I simply believe that creation mythologies should be taught in social studies classes, not in science classes.
