Hope you caught Nightline...

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  1. Rex

    Rex Founding Member

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    Ted Koppel and ABC went into Vietnam, and without notifying them ahead of time, interviewed the people there who were witnesses to the battle in which John Kerry earned his Silver Star.

    The villagers confirmed almost everything in the Silver Star citation.

    Koppel then interviewed John O'Neill, whose disgusting smear book against Kerry has been a best seller this year, and ripped that lying piece of **** to shreds.

    Said Koppel: "We didn't know which way this story would turn out. But we had an obligation to report what we found."

    Thank you, ABC. Thank you, Ted Koppel.

    Go away, John O'Niell. You are a dirtbag con artist hired by Richard Nixon to smear an honorable man, got your clock cleaned by John Kerry on live TV, and has held a grudge for that for over 30 years. But YOU'RE BUSTED.
     
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    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    what's to explain?
     
  3. marcmc99

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    1st Dan Blabber now Ted Koppel. Went to Nam unannounced and found these people. Isn't that amazing. I have a bridge in Arizona that I could sell you.

    Where is Geraldo Riverra when you need him?
    Thanks forthe morning entertainment. I needed a smileto start my day.
     
  5. marcmc99

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    John "Wayne" Kerry must have made one heck of an impression on those villagers to remember all those details. But, I suppose some of them probably may have been used as extras in Kerry's home movie reinactment of the episode, so I can see where it would stand out to them. A fine piece of journalism no doubt. Maybe Ted and ABC will win and Espy or something for their efforts.
     
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    Thank God those brave men never had the ideals, vision, and grit of John Kerry. We'd all be using chopsticks to eat our bratwurst and saurkraut. :shock:
     
  8. Rex

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    Those Vietnamese villagers lost everything in that battle...

    Their village was completely destroyed. Several of their fellow villagers were killed.

    I guess Vietnamese villagers are barbarians who would have worse memories than Swift Boat Liars who weren't even there.

    Bush supporters live in constant denial of the truth.
     
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    What happened? Was that one of the villages the war criminal Kerry burned down?
     
  10. marcmc99

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    Is this what you're talking about Rex?

    http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/Vote2004/story?id=166434&page=2

    Different Accounts


    Villagers say this is what they saw:

    "Firing from over here. Firing from over there. Firing from the boat," Vo Thi Vi told "Nightline."

    She was only a couple hundred yards away when a Swift boat turned and approached the shore, she said, adding that the boat was unleashing a barrage of gunfire as it approached.

    "I ran," she recalled, "Running fast. … And the Americans came from down there, yelling 'Attack, Attack!' And we ran."

    Her husband, Tam, said the man who fired the B-40 rocket was hit in this barrage of gunfire. Then, he said, "he ran about 18 meters before he died, falling dead."

    Oct. 14, 2004 -- Was the man killed by Kerry or by fire from the Swift boat? It was the heat of battle, Tam said, and he doesn't know exactly how the man with the rocket launcher died. But he knows the man's name — Ba Thanh. He was one of the 12 reinforcements sent to the village by provincial headquarters, and after he died, the firefight continued, according to Tam.

    "When the firing started, Ba Thanh was killed," Tam said. "And I led Ba Thanh's comrades, the whole unit, to fight back. And we ran around the back and fought the Americans from behind. We worked with the city soldiers to fire on the American boats."

    According to the after-action report, after beaching the Swift boat, Kerry "chased VC inland, behind hooch, and shot him while he fled, capturing one B-40 rocket launcher, with round in chamber."

    None of the villagers seems to be able to say for a fact that they saw an American chase the man who fired the B-40 into the woods and shoot him. Nobody seems to remember that. But they have no problem remembering Ba Thanh, the man who has been dismissed by Kerry's detractors as "a lone, wounded, fleeing, young Vietcong in a loincloth." (The description comes from "Unfit for Command," by Swift boat veteran John O'Neill.)

    "No, this is not correct," Nguyen Thi Tuoi, 77, told ABC News. "He wore a black pajama. He was strong. He was big and strong. He was about 26 or 27."

    Tuoi said she didn't see Ba Thanh get shot either, but she and her husband say they were the first to find his body. They say they found him a good distance from his bunker, though she could not confirm that Kerry — or anyone else — had pursued him into the bush.

    Her husband, Nguyen Van Ty, in his 80s, had a slightly different account of how Ba Thanh died.

    "I didn't see anything because I was hiding from the bullets and the bombs," he said. "It was very fierce and there was shooting everywhere and the leaves were being shredded to pieces. I was afraid to stay up there. I had to hide. And then, when it was over, I saw Ba Thanh was dead. He may have been shot in the chest when he stood up."

    He also said the Swift boats were coming under attack from the Viet Cong fighters on shore. "We tried to shoot at the boat," he said, "but we didn't hit anything."

    Kerry's citation says he "uncovered an enemy rest and supply area, which was destroyed," but according to the villagers, the Americans missed the military supplies. In fact, Vo Ti Vi said, just a few weeks after the attack, the Viet Cong raided a U.S. base stealing weapons and ammunition. The weapons remain in Nha Vi all these years later, she says, buried under her garden.
     

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