Healthcare: Right, Privilege, or Responsibility?

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  1. Rex_B

    Rex_B Geaux Time

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    Healthcare: Right, Privilege, or Responsibility?

    Well it was asked in the debate last night and I couldn't believe the answer from either candidate.

    Healthcare like any luxury is a Privilege in my eyes.
     
  2. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    I think healthcare is a right in the sense that no one should be denied coverage due to pre-existing conditions. I don't think healthcare is an entitlement though. I don't want the government negotiating rates, setting charges, or reimbursement rates for payors. I certainly don't want socialized healthcare.
     
  3. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    I agree, but i do think their should be regulation, to where people can afford it, they dont have to set the prices, but they cant turn a blind out to outright price gouging.
     
  4. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Luxury healthcare is a privilege for those with plenty of cash. They can afford the best and it's their choice how they spend their cash.

    Comprehensive healthcare is a responsibility for average working middle-class Americans. They and their employers pay a fair cost for this.

    Basic healthcare is a right for the poor. They pay what they can afford if anything. But it's no frills, no elective procedures, basic health care.

    It's for the good of the nation including the Republicans. We don't need epidemics and contagions among us because the poor don't get shots or tests. I don't want the maids and food service workers at my hotel to all have the flu and crabs. We need our yardmen and garbagemen to get stitched up and back to work on the azaleas. Students are often poor when they are in college, it would be good for the country if they survived to become productive.

    A guy working on my roof who fell off could just go get his broken arm set if he had insurance. If he has nothing, then he gets a shyster to sue me and my insurance to fix his arm.
     
  5. Bengal Buddy

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    Health care is not a luxury. It is a necessity. I have always believed it to be a right because it is such a necessity for a happy, fulfilled life. It is a disgrace when children, or adults for that matter, can't get the medical help they need because they cannot afford it. But that is not to say government should pay for it. Nationalized health care is not the solution. The big problem in health care is the working poor: those people who work for small businesses that cannot afford to offer health care. These businesses should be allowed to join together and purchase health care as a consortsium. This would allow them to purchase health care at a manageable cost. Self-employed people could be allowed to do the same thing: combine their resources together and purchase their health insurance as an association. This still leaves catastrophic illness to be dealt with, but it solves a major part of the problem. Health care is not a big problem for the poor or elderly because they have medicare and medicaid, which are pretty good systems. It is true that medicare and medicaid represent socialized medicine, but I don't know any way around that. There is no way the unemployed poor or many elderly people living off fixed and limited incomes can afford their own health insurance even if they joined together as an association.
     
  6. TigerKid05

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    That's a good one. I'll go with that.
     
  7. gumborue

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    the question is moot because it is de facto a right.

    the problem is that the system is expensive and inefficient. people without coverage get taken care of, but only after things are bad----and that leaves them less healthy and the country less wealthy.
     
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  8. Rex_B

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    Healthcare is provided by people that have to get paid. If these people don't get paid then there is no Healthcare. Of course there are free clinics etc but I'm talking about the majority.

    Healthcare is a business like everything else. If you can't afford it at some level then you don't get it.

    And NOBODY should HAVE TO pay for another person's health care. And the GOVT should have nothing to do with it.

    And employers have an OPTION to give their employees this BENEFIT.
     
  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Sounds like a third-world country. We are a Superpower, Jack. We don't have to live among the squalor and pestilence of a peasant population.
     
  10. gumborue

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    then why have you been paying for Medicare all these years.
     

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