Guns must be listed on 2010 Tax Returns?

Surely there is a more genteel method of saying the same thing:

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sounds like a good bill to me. shotgun and single load rifles are sufficient for home protection and hunting. kinda like making drugs illegal even though most users dont commit crimes.

 

Hopefully, you're being sarcastic.

 

Anybody who supports a bill like that should be removed from the country immediately!

 

Yeah, I don't see the problem with it either. Everybody, "conservative" or "liberal" is not cool with seeing career criminals or thugs be able stockpile an impressive array of artillery. I'd think that the "conservatives" would be the ones trying to crack down on allowing criminals to have guns. For example, I know a big gun shop that got busted by the feds because they were forging documents to sell guns to shady characters. And I know that, under some federal criminal law (and probably many state criminal laws as well), if you use a gun to commit crime, your sentence gets doubled. And of course, I'm pretty sure that every jurisdiction in the US makes it illegal for a felon to possess a firearm. What's wrong with all that?

As for this bill Sabanfan is talking about, he concludes that:

Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless:

-It is registered -You are fingerprinted -You supply a current Driver's License -You supply your Social Security # -You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their choosing -Each update - change of ownership through private or public sale must be reported and costs $25 - Failure to do so you automatically lose the right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail. -There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a child-access provision. Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any child under 18. -They would have the right to come and inspect that you are storing your gun safely away from accessibility to children and fine is punishable for up to 5 yrs. In prison.

Ok? And? What's wrong with making people register their firearms? Do you have something to hide? What's wrong with people getting fingerprinted? If everybody was fingerprinted, it would be a lot easier for the police to solve crimes. I remember back in the boy scouts, we voluntarily got fingerprinted at public fairs to set a good example. As for that mental eval, it's not that hard to pass a mental eval unless you're just a lunatic (in which case, you probably shouldn't be allowed to possess firearms). As for reporting change of ownership of firearms, what is wrong with that? What do you have to hide? Now as for how that gun must be locked and inaccessible if you have children, I've seen how that is controversial. On one hand, you have many people who have children that got in horrific accidents because their parents didn't hide the gun from them well enough (I have a friend like this). On the other hand, you have many people that have been burglarized who weren't able to defend themselves because their gun was locked and inaccessible.

 

When I read and hear comments about guns, people always discuss saving lives and safety. I don't think you'lll find many people who would disagree these are valid concerns.

The problem I have is the people (politicians) who talk safety are usually the same people who want complete gun control and/or remove your right to bear arms.

The "pushback" you get is from people who believe "gun safety" is a guise for their ultimate goal...removal of the right to bear arms.

If we don't need guns I guess politicians don't need body guards.

I'm not willing to hand over my country to a handful of politicians especially the liberal nut variety!

 

Gun control is only a way to inconvenience law abiding citizens and nothing more. Criminals don't walk into gun shops and legally purchase firearms registered in their name. Gun control laws don't apply to them because their guns are not legally purchased. What's the point of legislation to curb crime by not allowing criminals to legally buy guns when they generally get them illegally anyway? How about some tougher sentencing for gun related crimes with extra time if the gun is illegal?

 

there is no chance for complete gun control. there may be a few national pols that want it, but they are insignificant

simpletons that allow their views on an issue to be swayed by this rationale are gullible, manipulated by politicians and buy into crackpot conspiracy theories.

perhaps youre argument would have more merit if it based more on issues and less on politics.

really? the nutjob cho at vatech did. the dude in bama that killed several about 6 months ago did. the prof here in athens that killed 4 did. the dc sniper did. im sure thats it though. pretty insignificant really. im sure the nra has some stat about 99.9999% of murders by firearms are with illegally obtained weapons.

 

Here we go again. If we don't walk in a straight line and submit to everything the liberals want...we're conspiracy theorists, trouble makers, idiots, criminals, and anti-American Nazis.

Are we in 1930's-1940's Germany?

The only way you'll get criminals to register their weapons is if you send ACORN out to their supporters! :hihi: