Game thoughts, officiating and other ramblings

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  1. DallasLSU

    DallasLSU Founding Member

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    Wow, what a report....

    I was also very impressed by Bowe. Skyler dropped one in the first half when I think he heard the Defense bearing down and it impressed me that Bowe held on to it. Great years ahead with him.

    Mauck impressed me in the second half, but what happened in the first half? Either he couldn't find a sole open or he couldn't see...

    Props to our O-Line. Although it may seem like Mauck was having to throw away a lot, they still came up with some big, big stops. Pollack, although with his first sack, was a huge non-factor. That was bigger than it seems...

    I would have given the game ball to every player who batted down a David Greene pass at the line. That was the difference in this game...
     
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I think the officials let the teams play. Georgia and LSU both were holding the whole game (Did you see the photo in the Advocate with Peterson overtly holding a Georgia jersey). They called a couple of the flagrant ones, but the ones that didn't affect the play, they didn't call. I like that. Keep the game moving.

    It seemed that they were concerned with honesty on the line of scrimmage with a lot of offsides and illegal procedure calls, but they all looked deserved to me. Penalties killed LSU last year and we still have some improving to do.

    They didn't call cheap bumps as pass interference nor did they overprotect the quarterback with quick whistles. They did miss one personal foul that I saw, but they can't see everything.

    Blaming officials is for the losers, we won this game. I see SEC refs as capable and honest in my 30 years of watching LSU games.

    I'll buy ALL of your other points. One comment about the Tight ends. I think we don't use the TE pass as a primary weapon. LSU uses it sparingly and it is always a surprise when we do. That is a good thing. Our wideouts can carry the load most plays and when the defense forgets the TE . . . BAM!
     
  3. Tiger Trey

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    The pass to Edwards late in the second quarter marked a turning point in the game IMV. It opened up the running game a bit. Addai started picking up some yards on that series and was more effective in the second half than early in the first. I also think that we went to more double TE alignments on that drive and UGA wasn't ready for it. (Texas did the same thing to us at the Cotton Bowl in January.)
     
  4. CottonBowl'66

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    I agree that Mauck made some poor decisions and that interference should have been called when Clayton was shoved out of bounds on the deep pattern. Mauck made a great play and throw to find Green on the winning TD though.

    Carey's TD run and Georgia's 93 yard TD resulted from great blocking. At first I thought LSU was completely fooled on the screen pass, but there were five defenders nearby who could have made a tackle, and Georgia's offense got them all.

    Great blocking and a couple of good moves by Carey got him a TD. Carey is apparently a little guy who has good vision, toughness, and doesn't fumble.

    Carey and Skyler Green, two former New Orleans high school legends scored LSU's TDs. A welcome change from the past.

    Georgia had all Sophomores and Freshmen playing in the OL and they will only get better.

    LSU took advantage of the many low passes Greene throws and got their hands up to block many of them. This tendency will probably keep Greene out of the NFL starting lineup.

    Georgia dropped a lot of passes in the first half--so did LSU--but Michael Clayton stopped running on a deep pass in the second half that would have given LSU a first down near Georgia's twenty.

    On the next possession a Georgia DB made a great play by sticking his hand blindly in Henderson's chest and knocking the ball away on another deep third down play that would have set LSU up for another possible score.

    Both were well thrown balls by Mauck.

    I don't know if I buy that line about LSU still getting no credit from the national news media. The New York Times had LSU-Georgia as its featured game on its sports write up today on the internet.
     
  5. CalcoTiger

    CalcoTiger Live Long and Prosper IVI

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    Great points made by all.

    I just wanted to focus on some of the offense playcalling. On the whole i think Jimbo Fisher does a great job with playcalling. But there were a few times yesterday that i totally disagree with what he did. We were in a position to get a field goal that would have put us up by 10 points late in the game. He ran on both first and second downs and we got to about the 32. Then on third down he throws and it was incomplete. Then the kick for the field goal gets blocked. I would have liked to have seen another run to try to set up the kicker a little closer so it isnt as long. You have to play the situation in the game.

    Ask North Carolina State offensive co-ordinator if he would like to rething his play calling against Ohio State at the end.

    I am perfectly happy with Jimbo Fisher but he and the whole LSU offense had some problems. I hope we can get those corrected because there is still alot of football in the SEC to be played.

    Geaux Tigers
     
  6. Jetstorm

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    Don't forget what I and others said would be the game within the game.

    Everytime David Pollack lined up in the right end position, LSU left Andy Whitworth on an island with him. And Andy Whitworth totally shut him down. When Pollack moved over to the left side, he caused us problems in the first half, but in the second half, we contained him. He was basically a non-factor.

    Outstanding job by our offensive line against a Georgia front seven that is every bit as good as ours.
     
  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Glad to hear your opinion, I'm not pumping sunshine here. I'd like to hear more, if you've got any examples, especially.

    I think poor officiating is part of the game, just like injuries, "fluke" plays, or rain. Of course they can affect a game, but in general it works out about even for everybody. I've seen a lot of LSU games and watched many SEC TV games where I'm entirely neutral on the issue.

    I've seen blown calls, missed calls, phantom calls, . . . every bad call that can be made. These guys ain't perfect. But I've never seen any evidence of dishonesty. Nor have I heard of any betting scandals about NCAA refs.

    There is a difference between a bad call and a dishonest call. Yes, these refs are very competitive. But, dishonest calls and betting are the ticket to permanent dismissal for these guys. Homer refs are pariahs and can't get hired. I've heard a lot of speculation over the years, lots of bitch and moan, but no obvious cheating. I'm not exactly naive, but I'm not very gullible either. Do you have some evidence that might change my mind?
     
  8. TigerEducated

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    Thank you! Andrew Whitworth was a MONSTER against Pollack. Totally neutralized him...

    I couldn't believe they continually tried to send him over there, as if Whitworth would suddenly lose 8 inches and 100 pounds...and become athletically inferior to him...
     
  9. LSUfan

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    The officiating was fine, and it is actually in vogue to constantly put down the refs . . . in the age of instant replay.

    But I agree with everything else, good ramblings. Thanks for posting it.
     
  10. Goodlifetiger

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    Did you get any sleep last night. Are were you up writing this dissertation. I did see call on both sides that may have been wrong. The no call with Clayton was very bad.
     

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