'TWELVE' national championships by alabama is fraudulent, nothing but pure bunk ginned up by the SID Department. Here's a rundown: 1925 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with Dartmouth. Who awarded the NC? Houlgate and Helms. Houlgate started his system in 1927. So Bama won their 1925 NC using a formula that didn't exist until 1927? Helms Athletic Foundation started in 1941. Another incredible retroactive NC. The Associated Press Poll has been active since 1936. The AP took their final poll prior to bowl games from 1936 - 1964 and in 1966 and 1967. They took their final poll after the bowl games in 1965 and from 1968 - Current. 1926 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with 3 other teams with equal or better records! Once again it is the Helms Athletic Foundation in 1941 that awards it! 1930 National Championship- The Davis poll says that Bama tied Notre Dame for NC this year. This was the only one to award it to Bama. Notre Dame was named NC in 6 polls! Parke Davis is another retroactive system! He (an individual, not an organization) did his in 1933! 1934 National Championship- Alabama says they share this with two other teams. The awarders are Dunkel, Williamson, and Football Thesaurus. Dunkel was an individual who came up with his own system. Williamson was a geologist who came up with his own system. Football Thesaurus first appeared in 1946! 1941 National Championship- This is a complete joke. The AP ranked Alabama 20th in the nation with 14 teams with better records in the top 20. Once again it is the Football Thesaurus that retroactively awards it. Alabama finished 3rd in the SEC that year. Mississippi State won the SEC title..yet Bama claims a National title! 1961 National Championship- Finally a legitimate NC. . 1964 National Championship- While the AP did award the NC to Bama (10-1-0), Arkansas had the better record, 11-0. Alabama played Texas in their bowl and LOST. The AP final poll was before the bowl. 1965 National Championship- The AP gave this to Bama. That year there were three teams with better records than Bama. Bama 9-1-1, Michigan St 10-1-0, Arkansas 10-1-0, Nebraska 10-1-0. 1973 National Championship- AP puts Bama 4th after their bowl game loss. Bama claims a NC from the UPI poll that was taken before they met Notre Dame in the bowl game and lost. There were 3 teams with better records than Bama that year. The embarrassment of naming Alabama number one caused the UPI to name champions after bowl games. Yet Bammer has no shame in claiming it of course. 1978 National Championship- AP gives this to Alabama(11-1-0) even though USC (12-1-0) had the better record Guess who Alabama lost to that year? USC!!!!!!!!!. UPI gave the NC to USC. 1979 National Championship- Their second legitimate NC. Their first Unanimous NC. 1992 National Championship- Their third legitimate NC. Their second Unanimous NC. You can see why people ridicule Bama fans when they talk about 12 NCs. The early ones were awarded by individuals years after the games were played. These weren't consensus polls but NCs awarded by people that had their own formula for determining champions.:lol: :geauxtige
I have never seen this before. As an Auburn fan, I thank you. Also, thanks for not putting any double spaces between the years. That makes it much easier to read.
When you open this link, scroll down. http://www.geocities.com/voyager3/NCAA/champions.html?200724 This was interesting!
I see Ole Miss made it once - 1960, Football Writers Association --- What is all that stuff around the ring at their stadium? :rofl:
What's amusing is always the "they lost their bowl game!" comments. Bowl games were exhibition matches, basically for fun for a *long* time. This is the avenue of the person looking for an excuse to nullify the national title. If the "official" polls matter, and the "official" polls finished before the bowl game, then why deviate from that? If the "bowl games" matter, then shall we nullify every team that won a national title and didn't win their bowl game before the polls were done afterwards? What about teams that didn't even play in a bowl game, like the 1966 Notre Dame squad that won the title? You basically get yourself looking like a complete idiot if you're busy screaming that only AP and UPI polls count... then scream that they *shouldn't* count because they were done before you wanted them to be done. Make up your mind first, then call Alabama about which titles they should count.
I'm willing to concede that some of the reasoning for eliminating NC claims mentioned above seems weak at best. However, Bama clearly has no business claiming 12 national titles. On the other hand, in the interest of objectivity, how many of Notre Dame's or Michigan's titles are based on similar claims? If so, then they're no more legitimate. Still tho, I think the reason people around here get so steamed is because Bama takes seemingly every opportunity to remind us of their past prominence, so it's no surprise that we call them on it. 12 national championships sounds to us a pretty steep accomplishment by today's standards, and Bama is quick to agree. However, the fact seems to be that nearly anyone can claim a national championship dated before the 1960's or so due to the lack of a common system, and therefore claiming 12 national championships, 4 or more of which date earlier than 1960, is a dubious claim indeed. I'm willing to agree that Alabama is a storied program, with a long history of football prowess. But, frankly, the constant clamor about twelve or however many national championships they have has grown tiresome, and seems only to be an effort to obfuscate their recent inability to replicate past success. Desperation.
