On friday night I was at a casino wearing LSU gear and got into a football discussion with someone the the blackjack table. At 1 point he said he liked our fake FG but didn't think it was a legal play because of the fact that the holder knee is on the ground when he flips the ball to the kicker. His point being that once your knee is down the play is over, and I had no answer to why it is allowed. Anyone have the reason why it is allowed?
The exception to the rule is the holder. So it was legal. We had this discussion before from what I remember.
If that were the case, every FG and PAT would be blown dead before the kicker could kick. You should have just said that, smiled and told him to keep enjoying our team more than his own. --- I am here: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=30.070257,-95.534892
The rule was changed/clarified many years ago. Basically on a kick (FG or EP) the holder can have his knee on the ground at the snap.
That rule was actually explained the day following the play. Sorry I can't give you a quotable reason, but it was along the lines as: The holder, having already established himself down on 1 knee he's able to get up and run or make a football move. The holder is the ONLY exception to this rule. The fact that we had the holder pitch it back over his shoulder is no different than the COUNTLESS times any college team has attempted a fake FG by having the holder get up and use the more conventional forward pass. Matt Flynn could have spun it on top his head waiting for Colt David to take it off and run and it would have counted..
and with the fake plays clm has come up with and used, i'm surprised that wasnt tried. or maybe it was plan b. :hihi:
so before, the holder had to squat? i dont recall seeing that. i may google the squatter position but fear the results.
