so what, no one would argue that the dots were self-aware, or conscious. It showed the perception of intelligence, not intelligence, nor conscious, nor being self aware? This analogy is stupid, and so were the rest. Like the ants, perception of intelligence.
you should read a book called "conciousness explained" by daniel dennet. you only think that what you think because you are ignorant and dont know better. again, your incredulity has nothing to do with anything. look up the term "chinese room" and read about it. it is a stupid argument againt strong AI. you just dont understand what i am telling you. i ask again, what is magical about human brains that allows them to do have this self awareness that is so elusive? complex architecture? magic soul? what about the brain makes it such that its workings cannot be replicated? your self awareness is not some magical unattainable thing, it is a function of the power of your brain, and they way your head work, a product of evolution. self awareness and abstract thought and other advanced brain function are not magic. humans have a need to think of themselves as special, they are not. we are a product of evolution, and we do not have a monopolly on that process. machines will advance and improve just as we have. except a machine has the memory capacity to know all human knowledge, and as such has massive advantage and will zip ahead of humans in our lifetimes. again, i refer you to this article: http://www.transhumanist.com/volume1/moravec.htm you need to do a lot of research. that article is a great start.
This guy disagrees with you, Martin: Quote: The Practical Requirements for Making a Conscious Robot Daniel C. Dennett Center for Cognitive Studies Tufts University presented at the Royal Society meeting, Artificial Intelligence and the Mind, April 13-14, 1994. Published in Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society, A, 349, 1994, 133-46. Summary Arguments about whether a robot could ever be conscious have been conducted up to now in the factually impoverished arena of what is possible "in principle." A team at MIT of which I am a part is now embarking on a longterm project to design and build a humanoid robot, Cog, whose cognitive talents will include speech, eye-coordinated manipulation of objects, and a host of self-protective, self-regulatory and self-exploring activities. The aim of the project is not to make a conscious robot, but to make a robot that can interact with human beings in a robust and versatile manner in real time, take care of itself, and tell its designers things about itself that would otherwise be extremely difficult if not impossible to determine by examination. Many of the details of Cog's "neural" organization will parallel what is known (or presumed known) about their counterparts in the human brain, but the intended realism of Cog as a model is relatively coarse-grained, varying opportunistically as a function of what we think we know, what we think we can build, and what we think doesn't matter. Much of what we think will of course prove to be mistaken; that is one advantage of real experiments over thought experiments. keywords: consciousness, robot, artificial intelligence 1. ARE CONSCIOUS ROBOTS POSSIBLE "IN PRINCIPLE"? It is unlikely, in my opinion, that anyone will ever make a robot that is conscious in just the way we human beings are. Presumably that prediction is less interesting than the reasons one might offer for it. They might be deep--conscious robots are in some way "impossible in principle"--or they might be trivial--for instance, conscious robots might simply cost too much to make. Nobody will ever synthesize a gall bladder out of atoms of the requisite elements, but I think it is uncontroversial that a gall bladder is nevertheless "just" a stupendous assembly of such atoms. Might a conscious robot be "just" a stupendous assembly of more elementary artifacts--silicon chips, wires, tiny motors and cameras--or would any such assembly, of whatever size and sophistication, have to leave out some special ingredient that is requisite for consciousness? (The whole paper is now available in Daniel Dennett, Brainchildren, Essays on Designing Minds, MIT Press and Penguin, 1998.)
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