Doesn't logic show Saban is gone?

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  1. max

    max Founding Member

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    He knows what the offer is supposed to be: $4-5 million per year with final say over personnel.

    If he was going to turn down that offer, he could do it now. Why would he have to wait for the actual offer to make the decision?

    If he was going to accept, he has to wait until the Dolphins "interview" a "minority" and give him a firm offer. He has to make sure the offer is what has been reported. Then, he can say "yes."

    Once again: If he is going to turn the Dolphins down, he can do it now.

    The only thing to change it is if Wayne doesn't want to pay that much or doesn't want to give a coach total control or sours on Saban for some reason in favor of another candidate, which is highly unlikely.

    Those of you who say he is staying, where is my logic flawed?
     
  2. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    Great logic max. Great logic indeed.
     
  3. jjfl

    jjfl Founding Member

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    agreed. doesn't look good.
     
  4. Tigerskin

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    Yes as you have stated, it seems clear that Saban does want to go. However many have said his wife and daughter don't want to go. Who wins that battle, I don't know. I know how much Saban has done for us and am very thankful, but if he really wants to go, I want him to go. I would hate for him to be unhappy here and regret not leaving. Also if the NFL feels the Dolphins, or whoever, is not buying their token minority interviews, they might have to figure something out to do about it.
     
  5. Martin Blank

    Martin Blank Freshman

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    Sorry - it's flawed.

    You can't turn down an offer that hasn't been made yet. If Saban "turns down" the Dolphins now, it means he's been offered the job.

    If he's been offered the job, then the Dolphins will have done so without first interviewing a minority candidate per NFL guidelines (the "Rooney Rule").

    If the Dolphins offered Saban the job without a minority interview, the NFL will fine the team at least $500,000, perhaps as high as $2 million if ProFootballTalk.com is to be believed. That fine is not paid by the team itself - it is levied personally upon the highest ranking team official conducting the search (Matt Millen was fined 2 years ago, NOT the Lions).

    There is also talk that the next Rooney Rule fine will be deducted from the team's salary cap (again, ProFootballTalk.com). That gives a team essentially one less decent player.

    So if Saban declines the Dolphins job first thing Sunday morning, it'll cost the Dolphins a not insignifcant amount of money. And open the team up to a cavalcade of criticism for its racial insensitivity. And in a city that has its share of race issues (see Liberty City riots, etc.). He'll say nothing until the Shell/Shannon interviews are conducted.

    So there are very good, practical, and compelling reasons for Saban not to have come out and accepted or declined the Dolphins head coaching position. It doesn't mean he will or won't go. Just means his silence doesn't mitigate in either direction right now.
     
  6. lctiger

    lctiger Founding Member

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    Disagree. Saban could easily "decline" the job without admitting it was offered. " I have decided to stay in BR even if the Dolphins offer the job. I'm not going anywhere." No penalty or breaking the token rule for the fish.
     
  7. Tigerskin

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    I think you meant if Saban accepts
     
  8. Tygrr

    Tygrr Win the West

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    We're starting to beat a dead horse here.
     
  9. Tigerskin

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    I agree but just trying to answer the poster's question instead of saying go read all the previous posts.
     
  10. ExoticGlass1

    ExoticGlass1 Founding Member

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    i would really like to believe what crawfish has said but i don't think it looks good for him to stay. he could easly say he is withdrawing his name from consideration but he won't because hes interested which means it only comes down to if they will offer him what he wants and from what i've read they are ready to almost throw in the state of florida to get him. another thing is what its gonna do to the players who are on the wall about committing to lsu and he was planning on staying i don't think he would let this drag out. this whole thing is not good for the team, not just the players but the other coaches that have this on their mind and have to get ready for the bowl game, if saban was gonna stay he would have put this to rest already. don't say this is like every year that hes been here because this is not the same in the time frame from what happened before.
     

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