Clinton in his own words

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  1. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    http://www.zombietime.com/clinton_on_iran_at_davos/
    This page contains a recording and a transcript of a discussion between President Clinton and Charlie Rose held at The World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland sometime between January 26 and 30, 2005.

    Click here to hear an mp3 file of Clinton speaking about Iran at Davos (mp3 file, 6mb).

    The original video from which this audio file was made can be found (in streaming RealPlayer or Windows Media formats) here at the World Economic Forum Web site. [Hat tip: religion of bacon.]

    "But Iran is the most perplexing problem ... we face, for the following reasons: It is the only country in the world with two governments, and the only country in the world that has now had six elections since the first election of President Khatami. [It is] the only one with elections, including the United States, including Israel, including you name it, where the liberals, or the progressives, have won two-thirds to 70 percent of the vote in six elections: two for President; two for the parliament, the Majlis; two for the mayoralities.

    In every single election, the guys I identify with got two-thirds to 70% of the vote. There is no other country in the world I can say that about, certainly not my own."
    http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/1/7/120534.shtml
     
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    What is your point, Sourdough?
     
  3. MFn G I M P

    MFn G I M P Founding Member

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    I think what he is trying to say is that Clinton said he identifies with the guy who got 66-70% of every vote in Iran. Which means that he identifies himself with the nut Ahmadinejead.
     
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    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    What he said, seems rather obvious, kinda shocking.
    So he would rather side with the enemy instead of his own country?
    Does that include the Chinese as well?
    I wonder how much technology he gave away to the communists and the
    terrorists of Iran.
     
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    MFn G I M P Founding Member

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    Ah, I just realized Clintons comments were made in January of 2005 but Ahmadinejad wasn't elected until June of 2005, so Clinton definately wasn't referring to Ahmadinejad.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    But that is backwards if you read the entire transcript! Sourdough conveniently clipped out relevent portions of Cllinton's comments. The 70% Clinton is talking about are the progressives, not Ahmadinejads recent narrow islamist victory. He talks about how the Iranian Constitution allows the ayatollah and his mullahs to control the 70% of Iranians who have elected moderate progressive candidates who want reapproachment with the west.

    You see, Sourdough also conveniently failed to note that this interview occurred in January 2005 when Khatami was still President--not Ahmadinejad! Clinton is talking about the moderate Khatami government. Sourdough is either being deliberately deceptive or he just doesn't understand what he is reading.

    Here are some more excerpts from that interview:

     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Obvious to who? Where did Clinton side with what enemy? What do the Chinese have to do with any of this?

    Clinton gave away nothing to Iran. It was Ronald Reagan who traded missiles to Iran in return for the release of American hotages in Lebanon. did you forget that?

    Sourdough, I have no idea how your thought processes work. You look at statements and just see what you want to see.
     
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    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    LOL, I was just jerking your chain about comments of siding with the enemy.
    As far as Ronald Reagan is concerned, I was 15 in 1980 so I have no clue
    if Reagan did that or not but I'm willing to bet he would've bombed them into
    the stone age if they didn't release the hostages.

    Were the hostages in Lebanon or Tehran?
    I don't remember any in Lebanon?
    Other reason why we should bring down the middle east.
    Keep the sane people and get rid of the insanity!:grin: :lol:
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    For your reading pleasure, The Iran-Contra Affair.

    Hezbollah held hostages in Lebanon, so Reagan illegally sold TOW missiles to Iran so that they could fight Iraq with them. In return Iran was to order its Hezbollah minions to release the hostages, but they reneged on the deal. Meanwhile Oliver North took the money from the sale and illegally channeled it to fund the the Contras, a group engaged in an insurgency against the left-wing Sandinista government of Nicaragua. This was in violation of a law enacted by Congress to deny any US government funding to the Contras because of their cocaine trafficing and human rights abuses.
     
  10. MFn G I M P

    MFn G I M P Founding Member

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    I know, that is why I replied to my own post about the date of what he said and the date of the Ahmadinejad election.
     

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