Bush's speech Friday 11/11

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  1. LsuCraig

    LsuCraig Founding Member

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    I hope everyone reads this because I think it is right on. He lays out his plan for the war on terror and I think he did so plainly and brilliantly.

    These are my thoughts:
    When I look at Jordan, a free Iraq, this area of the world can be changed. The more I think about people's reluctance for the war in America, I wonder more and more if it is not seeded in bigotry and racism. These people deserve freedom and all that freedom brings. Many of our men and women will die giving it to them but through that we present a better opportunity for our security and the middle east's.

    This is Bush's thoughts:

    "The fifth element of our strategy in the war on terror is to deny the militants future recruits by replacing hatred and resentment with democracy and hope across the broader Middle East. This is difficult and it's a long-term project, yet there's no alternative to it. Our future and the future of the region are linked. If the broader Middle East is left to grow in bitterness, if countries remain in misery while radicals stir the resentment of millions, then that part of the world will be a source of endless conflict and mounting danger in our generation and for the next."

    Great speech.


    http://jewishworldreview.com/1105/bush_vets_day.php3
     
  2. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    Such a simple concept, yet so many still can't digest it. According to the numbers, however, more people are actually beginning to realize it. I think the rest are just too damn stubborn to admit that they were wrong, much like the administration that leads them. No one made the 'democratic Iraq wet dream' argument before it was unveiled that the invasion was based on fabricated pretenses. It all came after the fact.
     
  3. LsuCraig

    LsuCraig Founding Member

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    The view just expressed is the bigoted, simple-minded viewpoint. Some people are too racist or stupid to realize that millions of Muslim's live very free, violence free lives around the world. Millions in the middle east. Don't be a simpleton like somebody who has no view of the world or history. What is going on with Islam is a fight for the soul of their religion. The peaceful will triumph in the end with our help.

    Your viewpoint amazes me just as Bush's and mine amazes you. You know what I call for......exactly what was said in the speech. But we have tried doing nothing and it got us 9/11. I'll stay with action rather than waiting for them to mobilize and attack again....appeasement will ultimately lead to our defeat.

    Anyone who thinks this whole think comes down to Iraq is either a moron or a simpleton. There's a much bigger picture here.....you didn't even read the speech cause I think he explains it pretty well. Can you read?
     
  4. LsuCraig

    LsuCraig Founding Member

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    Yeah if everybody would hold hands and drink a Coke there would be peace....I mean Muslim's exist, most are peaceful and some are not. We can't nuke Syria so what do we do? Wait for them to blow us up?

    I haven't bought into anything. I have always thought that the mdidle east needs a true democracy there to provide an example of propserity to these people. It's a war.....we either win or we sit back, whine about things and lose our way of life. I say we make them lose their way of life before we lsoe ours.

    My wife grew up in Saudi and knows a pretty good bit about how these people live and think. Jordan is Bahrain are westernized Muslim nations where people have freedoms..women can drive, go to school etc.

    It can happen for every country over there........like Bush said, it is going to be hard and we have to be committed to it. But we either do it or we let the Taliban have the whole things and then defeat us.
     
  5. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    You just broke your own record for shortest time to infantile posting. Congratulations, how does it feel?:lol:

    The beauty of it all is that you have absolutely no clue how much it weakens your already feeble argument, nor can you digest the irony of you labelling another as a 'simpleton.' If you think you are capable of carrying out a conversation like an adult, or not getting offended by everyone who disagrees with you, fire away. But I don't see how you can every possibly expect to engage in productive discourse when you are constantly acting so petulantly. I am convinced that your lone objective is to impose your opinions on others, and lash out and insult all who disagree with it. Of course, that begs the question, why bother?

    That said, let's take a look at some of your points. If you can respond in an adult-like manner, be my guest. If not, don't expect me to continue gracing you with my retorts.
    Racism? Bigotry? Are you serious? That's the most outlandish pro-war argument I've ever heard. What do all these Mulims that live violence-free lives have to do with anything? Those are not the ones that America is concerned with defending itself against.

    And what about my occupation opposition indicates that I have 'no view of the world or history?' Historically speaking, the Middle East has been an epicenter of chaos and violence for eons. The unrest is certainly nothing new.
    So, let me get this straight. We didn't invade the Middle East and dictate how Islam was going to operate to all of its followers, so they attacked us? 9/11 was caused by a deep-rooted contempt for 'infidels' by a group of whackos. Somehow I seriously doubt that a Middle East presence would have quelled that in its early stages.
    I believe we've done that in Afghanistan. This argument only holds true if you still believe that Iraq had something to do with 9/11.
    Iraq was not a theocracy when we invaded it, nor was it involved in terrorist attacks on our soil.
    Why are you acting like he's unveiling some sparkling-new master plan? He's spewing out the same ignorant garbage as he always has.
    No.
     
  6. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    According to Gerald Posner, author of Secrets of the Kingdom: The Inside Story of the Saudi-US Connection, Saudi Arabia is the only country left that does not allow women to drive. How ironic.
     
  7. Mystikalilusion

    Mystikalilusion Founding Member

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    Great speech? Great speech???

    President Bush, in the most forceful defense yet of his Iraq war policy, accused critics Friday of trying to rewrite history and charged that they’re undercutting America’s forces on the front lines.

    “The stakes in the global war on terror are too high and the national interest is too important for politicians to throw out false charges,” the president said in his combative Veterans Day speech."

    “When I made the decision to remove Saddam Hussein from power, Congress approved it with strong bipartisan support,” Bush said. “While it’s perfectly legitimate to criticize my decision or the conduct of the war, it is deeply irresponsible to rewrite the history of how that war began.”

    We've never heard the real reason for how and why that war began. . . too bad he couldn't include that in the speech. Would have been several years delayed, but hey, don't think the American public wouldn't have appreciated THAT on Veteran's Day. An answer for why those with deceased soldiers are deceased.
     
  8. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    Oh come on, how do more lies and propoganda not constitute a 'great speech?':lol:
     
  9. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    It's because he's not up for re-election that he's doing the right thing and not the "popular" thing.
     
  10. LsuCraig

    LsuCraig Founding Member

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    Bam-o a-holes. This is the truth. And the good thing is, no one can do a damned thing about it.
     

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