Because I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it...people elected me!

Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by red55, Jul 6, 2009.

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  1. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    if like to call folks uppity white liberal idiots. i clearly dont hate whites, just these particular white liberals. so the white part is specific to the liberal idiots. just like these black bastards.

    and again, the speaker is dictating to you his meaning. i dont feel like it is our place to tell anyone they are meaning to be racist or whatever. it is a cheap shot and it wins too many arguments when it shouldnt. again, we know famn well it is cheap and unfair to play the racist card on folks.
     
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    martin Banned Forever

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    exactly correct.
     
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  3. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    Maybe not related but he sure does love him some Slick Willie.:hihi: Just say something bad about a Clinton and watch Red go into attack mode!
     
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  4. Bengal Buddy

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    You can try to nuance it all you want, but when you refer to someone as a black bastard, that is a perjorative phrase. This is common sense stuff. DUH!
     
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  5. paducahmichael

    paducahmichael Tiger Band Class of '73

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    Why do you believe this? What kind of charges would you expect to see?

    Please be specific.
     
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  6. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Ya'll leave Red alone. He's having a difficult time convincing himself that electing Obama wasn't a huge mistake.
     
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  7. martin

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    perjorative yes because of the term "bastard". but there is nothing wrong with being black. so it is not racist unless that was the intent, which it wasnt.

    like if i say a dude is a big tall idiot. the tall part isnt the insult.
     
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  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    It's dangerous to guess somebody's intent. So you go by what someone says, which is why it's wise to consider words carefully. Not everybody who one calls Obama a "black bastard" is going to understand that we gets a free pass if we likes us some soul food.

    Well, the whole post was a clear political and personal condemnation of Obama. That's fine, it's his right and I never objected to it. It ain't about Salty, its about your notion that a racial insult is only a racial insult if it is intended to be one, as if anyone can know this.

    Can't you see that if someone uses race as part of an insult, he clearly suggest that his race is something he has an issue with. Everybody understands this . . . or they should.
     
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    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    :eek:
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I never said he was throwing out bigoted insults. I never addressed Salty's post at all. I challenged martins flat statement that black bastard is not a bigoted insult. You are assuming everything else.

    I have no idea if Salty intended to make a bigoted insult or if he even realizes that he might have. I certainly have no evidence to call him bigoted. Never have and have no plans to. Salty's business.

    I do have a strong opinion on martins theory on bigoted insults, though, and that I what I addressed.
     
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