Because I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it...people elected me!

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  1. Rex_B

    Rex_B Geaux Time

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    Sorry I don't read Westerns.
     
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  2. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    true. not a bastard, not literally. but bastard is a term that salty could be using as a general insult. i dont see anything racist about that.

    perhaps we should stop being cowards and taking the easy way out, throwing in accusations of racism at every opportunity, when we know damn well they are cheap and untrue and not fair.

    my theory is that when person A calls person B on racism, person A is a weak scoundrel, appealing to what he thinks people like.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Racism wasn't the question. You suggested the statement was accurate by asking what part I can't agree with. So I pointed out the inaccuracy.

    Obviously the whole comment was an intentional insult.
     
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    martin Banned Forever

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    the issue i was concerned about was the bigotry accusation. if i call a man a black bastard, that doesnt make me a bigot. it means i intend to insult. there are white bastards too. there was no bigotry in salty's original statement. the accusation of bigotry was cheap and stupid.

    but sure, barack is not technically a bastard, he is very close. but bastard is still a nice insult to be used against folks who are not technically illegitmate bastards.
     
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  5. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    It's a man thang.
     
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  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    If you insult a man, it is an insult, if you insult him by making his race part of it, it is a bigoted insult.

    For once this is an either/or issue. He either is or he isn't.
     
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  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Dare I ask, what do you read?

    What's the name of the last newspaper you read? -- Katie Kouric
     
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    martin Banned Forever

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    i disagree. if u call me a stupid white person, you are not a bigot. you are not saying that my whiteness is relevant, you are simply describing me. i am certain that salty isnt saying that barack is a bad leader because he is half black, which would be bigoted.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    The implication (which will be assumed) is that one is a bastard because he is black or stupid because he is white. There is really no other reason than bigotry to make it part of the insult.

    If you tell someone to move his ass, you are being rude. If you tell him to move his black ass, you're asking for a fight . . . even in New York.
     
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  10. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Probably The Weekly Reader.
     
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