Because I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it...people elected me!

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  1. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Please use the term, Sir William of Smooth.
     
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    TwistedTiger Founding Member

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    Come on Red......

    Say all you want, the evidence says otherwise.
     
  3. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    every time anyone says anything you have to "guess" their intent. and again, intent is the only thing that matters.

    if an englishman comes in here saying he hates fags and likes to burn them, we would have to guess from his nationality that he meant cigarettes. we dont just say "well duh, fags are fags, he said it, that homophobe". communication is about context and interpretation, not just reading words.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    The evidence shows that I objected to a remark being spun by martin and that I never characterized Salty's as bigoted, despite martin's attempts to personalize the matter.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    One "guesses" that from their remarks, of course.
     
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    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    You did not directly characterize Salty's words as bigoted but your objections to martin damn sure implied that what Salty said was bigoted.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I know it seems that way, but since only my intent matters, them I'm OK since I have no issue with Salty. :grin:

    Salty has made no issue with me either, if I may point that out. He's the only one who gets it. Suddenly martin, sabanFan and Twisted have gotten politically correct. :huh:

    Look SF, we all make bigoted remarks, especially when we are insulting somebody politically. I know exactly what Salty meant and so did you. So does MASTERMIND, twisted, and martin. All God's chillun' understand.

    But clever and politically incorrect Tom "Salty" Sawyer has folks whitewashing his fence for free. :hihi: That's funny.
     
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    mobius481 Registered Member

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    Sorry i didn't see this before or I would have responded. She definitely cost him the presidency. The biggest mistake Mccain made was trying to get the republicans and conservatives to vote for him. He had their vote, he needed the independent vote, which decides every election by the way, and he ignored it. Don't give me the ole, "republicans would have stayed home" crap. That's BS. They might piss and moan all the way to the polling place and all the way back home but they're going and they're voting.

    Choosing Palin, and I said this at the time, was like throwing up a hail mary in the first quarter. It's exciting and fun but 99 times out of 100 it doesn't work and when you look back on it, you realized it probably cost you the game. She was weak, or at a minimum had unknown qualifications/knowledge, and was selected to target a select group (white republicans). I think if he'd have chosen Mitt Romney and appealed to conservatives, he may have pulled it off. Remember, Romney did some things that appealed to some independents like universal healthcare.
     
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    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    I'm neither politically correct nor trying to defend Salty. I just tried to slow down your spin machine. Salty can handle himself.
     
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    TwistedTiger Founding Member

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    I'm definitely not politically correct and I am bigoted, but that's not the point. Your talking out of both sides of your mouth and playing Clintonesque word games and I'm pointing it out. Guess it all depends on what your definition of sex is right Red? You definitely implied that Salty was bigoted no way around it. I have no problem with that, just quit crawfishing.:thumb:
     

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