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  1. KTeamLSU

    KTeamLSU Founding Member

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    whining it up today on all the boards... saying that the no call was the worst call ever, IMHO it looked to me like there was 'some' contact (inadvertent probably measuring distance between CW and reciever) and the reciever slipped and fell. I feel sure that is what the official saw also. I dont believe it was as blatant as everyone else is claiming.
     
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    It was probably a bad call. But, hey . . . just like injuries, bad calls are part of the game. Everybody gets them and it all evens out in the long run. This call didn't cost them the game. LSU got a bad call against Auburn that did cost us the game and a chance at another championship. What is disappointing about the Bama fans griping is that they are saying things like it was a homer call, and the "worst bad call in football history", and that this happens to Bama everywhere they go because every body is so jealous of their "tradition". Bullchit!, It was just a blown call by an SEC referee.

    The reason Alabama lost the game has more to do with:

    1. The nations number one defense (Bama) gave up 283 yards and 26 points while the number four defense (LSU) only gave up 196 yards and 10 points.

    2. The SEC's number one rushing attack (Bama) rushed for less than 2 yards per carry. Only 82 yards while LSU piled up 192.

    3. Bama's quarterback was sacked and fumbled the ball which was returned for a touchdown, when he should have thrown it away.

    4. Bama's offense scored the same number of touchdowns as LSU's defense. They just didn't get it done.

    5. Bama played very hard but seemed to run out of gas in the 4th quarter. The scholarship losses haven't hurt their starting talent, but it has weakened their depth. LSU earned half of its yards in the 4th quarter.
     
  3. COramprat

    COramprat Simma Da Na

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    Bad no call, yes...worst ever, no. The worst call ever was the second to last play of LSU vs Auburn...

    Any call that goes against your team is the worst...just turns out that this one against Bama caused their team to fold like Barnum/Bailey's on Monday morning.
     
  4. KTeamLSU

    KTeamLSU Founding Member

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    Explain why it was a bad no call....

    I see CW's hand on brush against the chest of reciever and the reciever FALL... the contact is acceptable level of contact between recievers.... maybe not by the word of rule, but what refs go by
     
  5. Jean Lafitte

    Jean Lafitte The Old Guard

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    Objectively speaking.

    I think that we can all agree that one philosophy of officiating is "Let the Teams Play the Game." If you are an official who believes in this philosophy, you will call infractions such as Holding and Pass Interference less frequently than you might be able to if you went strictly by the "book rule." You would do so in the interest of throwing fewer flags, keeping the game moving, and letting the teams, rather than the refs, decide the game.

    The now infamous no-call in the endzone is an example of this officiating philosophy in action. Picture again in your mind, if you will, the position of the WR and Corner, and the point to which the ball was thrown. The ball thrown closer to the Corner than to the WR. In fact the Corner was directly between the WR and where the ball was thrown . . . the WR was on the left side of my TV screen near the left side of the end zone, the Corner was just to the right of the WR, and the ball was thrown slightly to the right of the Corner. There was no way that the ball was catchable by the WR. It was a poorly thrown MEATBALL and would have been intercepted, unless the WR mugged the Corner. The Corner had more of a shot at the ball than the WR.

    I'm guessing that these factors went into the ref's analysis regarding whether to throw the flag. If so, I agree with the no-call.

    PS The Cornerback did NOT flagrantly shove the WR . . . he barely touched him. Still, I admit that the call could have gone either way.
     
  6. JVincent25

    JVincent25 Founding Member

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    I think its convient how they can blame the total collapse of a team on one "bad call". Get over it, the refs didn't fumble the ball, the refs weren't the ones getting burned by Joe Addai, and the refs weren't the ones getting manhandled by Marcus Spears and Claude Wroten.
     
  7. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    its like a charge in basketball and Vlade Divac's flops. Regardless the contact, in real time it looks blatant but it wasn't yet the offensive player usually gets the benefit of the doubt in football. LSU exposed this team for what it is. A good team who has a padded record from playing a lot of weak teams. they have no shot in the iron bowl.

    they played LSU very, very hard yet LSU was clearly the better team and won.


    next.
     
  8. dothantiger

    dothantiger Founding Member

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    Sure, it may be a bad call, but Lord knows we have had our fair share of them. It wouldn't made a difference in the outcome anyway. Maybe the score would've been a little closer, but we still would've won.
     
  9. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    The difference was going up 17-6 vs. 10-6. That's a big deal. It would have put undue pressure on LSU to come back in this game, as our offense was struggling all game long up to that point.

    I think if the call had been made, and it was blatant interference on CWeb's part, LSU would have had a very hard time winning this game.

    You must also remember CWeb ran back the interception a pretty long way and changed the field position from being heavily in their favor to heavily in our favor, which ultimately won the game for us, along with a tenacious D.
     
  10. TigerWins

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    My guess is you would be screaming bloody murder if that happened to an LSU receiver...
     

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