I agree, you have to survive. The other cops pretty much were being nice and said the situation was much about nothing.
looking at the video, its not a good idea to aggressively approach an officer trying to detain someone. thats when he unholstered.
It was much more than that. It was a disturbance. But just sweep that under the rug, I'll hold it up for you.
according to who? so much of a disturbance, one of the cops on the scene said it was much about nothing.
According to the people that were disturbed. The police were called, you know. If you set up speakers and play loud music and have 70 people parking everywhere in a quiet neighborhood like mine . . . people will call the police. We don't even have a neighborhood association with rules regarding parties and such. But old ladies will get disturbed and call the police. Usually the police just tell them to shut down the music and don't disturb the neighbors. If there is trouble, they will tell people to move along. When the police arrived there had been trouble. A fight has been reported and people climbing other neighbors fences and tresspassing. The cop in question obviously did not act properly but neither did the partygoers, which is the point I was making. Like Vball suggested, there are a lot of stories out there right now and the cop acted before he got all of the information. But the media is drumming this like it is another incident of white police seeking out totally innocent black people to abuse. Much ado about nothing is absolutely right.
the fight was reportedly started by a person who lives in the neighborhood with the kids. the media is reporting on the excessive forced used on a female, who had her face slammed into the ground. Was the party illegal?
A fight is a fight and police have to respond. I bet there are two side to this incident. Nobody disputes that. But the media is also suggesting that it was white police abusing black teenagers which is exactly how you characterized it in this thread. I saw a person challenging the police and a policeman overreacting. Who knows? If it was against the rules of the subdivision, there will be lawsuits filed. But the police were not there to enforce neighborhood rules, they were there to respond to a complaint and to maintain order. It is definitely illegal to disturb the peace, trespass, and to interfere with the police. In Baltimore people are being killed in record numbers because the police are no longer able to actively challenge suspects without being charged with crimes. Are police now supposed to just ignore complaints of disturbances and fighting because they might be accused of misconduct. Should we just let the neighbors shoot it out with the disturbers?
when did I characterize it as such? I said it was shitty for someone to show up and tell just the black kids to get out of the pool. That person was a security guard for that neighborhood, not a police officer. So show me where I said as such? also, i dont understand the Baltimore comment, police who act badly and a suspects ends up dead in their custody, should be potentially looked at criminally. Certainly, you are not suggesting police have a free pass on these matters?
Title of the thread = Another out of control cop in McKinney, TX First post = "pretty shitty to just kick the black kids out of the pool" Sounded like you were talking about the cops to me. You said nothing about a security guard and neither did the linked story. Who hires a security guard for a "neighborhood" pool party? Or was it the subdivision security guard just enforcing the rules of the subdivision? What difference does it make to police misconduct? The story said that the police responded to "a disturbance". Is that improper somehow? Everybody here is agreeing that the officer acted improperly. Why are you so defensive about the suggestion that some of the 70 teenagers may have also acted improperly?
