Accountability

Why is it that this just continues to happen and continues to get washed away in varying degrees. Mr. Obama just recently told a big ol stinker about his grandfather being in the unit that liberated auschwitz (sp?). Really? We have this, and the Billary "we were taking fire" fiasco. WTF? These bafoons want to lead the greatest country in the world and they can't even be trusted at PR event in bugtussle idaho!! Some of you may think this is nothing but I beg to differ. Sure all poloticians lie, but come on, when is enough going to be enough?

 

I am not a supporter of either Obama or Clinton, but these were thoughtless mistakes concerning fairly minor issues. There was no real intent in either case to deceive. The talk show hosts and news commentators will almost certainly try to make a major issue of it and that's too bad because that will just draw attention from the really important campaign issues.

 

Obama mistaken on name of Nazi death camp - Yahoo! News

when the person and what he did is accurate, but the place is different, yet still a death camp, i think the whole thing is making a mountain out of a mole hill.

 

Perhaps the way I see it is just a bit different. I had posted on the clinton boo boo earlier and again I'll say, you just don't "forget" if you were shot at or not. It's quite the experience for those of you that have not had it, a lil different than the amusement park roller coaster. I'm sure BO's grand pappy did something noteworthy and probably did rescue or liberate someone ( I don't like obama so I'm not going to research it) but I think he would know if he grandfather was russian or not. Perhaps, and this is only speculation, he slipped that name in for either dramatic effect, or because he didn't think anyone would either a. know the name of any other nazi concentration camps, or b. that no one would know that the one he named was actually liberated by the Red Army. Either way, both cases or not so much about how big of a lie, or whatever you wish to call it as it is about them just not being able to tell the truth and them counting on us to believe it, let it slide, or find a way to justify it. Its crap and makes me stronger in my stand that I'd vote for Mr Magoo before I'd vote obama or clinton.

 

You are right, he did do something very honorable and worthy of a soldier. So it was a different camp, Obama named the wrong camp. But since you are screaming about accountability, its not like he flat out lied. He got the wrong camp, I usually wouldnt respond to something like this, because I think highly of you, but if you are going to be upset over nothing. I have to show you the research, since you wont do it.

Obama admits reference to Auschwitz was wrong | Reuters

 

So if you are going to hold them accountable for not telling the truth, I know good and hell well you wont vote for McCain, because he has lied and flip flopped on many different subjects. But I guess we are just holding Democrats accountable and not McCain. Oh I see how that works, you call out who you sit fit and ignore the other liar of the straight talk express.

So being the friend I am, I'll help you out with the McCain lies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5-DnNsoA5Y


But let's look at a few of the flip-flops. Not even mentioning that he led the charge on amnesty on the border. If you really believe that he's -- "oh, I've listened to the American people now." If you really, truly believe he will say that after he's elected, a guy who led the charge and called you a racist if you were against it, if you believe him now, you know, good for you. I don't know how you do that.

But okay, his flip-flops. Besides the border, the Bush tax cuts. Do you believe that taxes grow the economy -- cutting taxes grow the economy or don't grow the economy? If you don't believe in tax cuts growing the economy, well, then you're cool with John McCain because he agrees with you. He voted against the tax cuts in 2001 and 2003. He was only one of two Republicans to do so. That's bad enough. But we had Senator Rick Santorum on Friday. Listen to part of what Rick Santorum had to say when I asked him about John McCain.

SENATOR SANTORUM: I have real problems is that on almost every major domestic policy issue that I dealt with over the last six years anyway when I was in leadership of the Senate, John McCain was not just on the other side. There were people on the other side. Linc Chafee was on the other side. In many cases, not all for sure but many cases Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe were on the other side. But there's a difference between being on the other side and adopting the rhetoric of the other side and condemning people who hold the position opposite to you and sort of buying in to these fallacious arguments that the left would argue on and everything from reimportation, or should I say importation of drugs to global warming to immigration. Go on down the list, of a long list, unfortunately long list of issues where he has just not only been wrong but he has joined the other side in assailing the foundational principles of, I think, conservatism and dealing with these issues which is to do so in a limited way with smaller government, and he has opted for the other course.

GLENN: The most important thing he said there to me is he adopts the rhetoric. Remember, he was the guy on the border who was talking about the hatred that so many people have for Mexicans. He was calling you a racist. He adopts the rhetoric. It's not that he's wrong. He adopts the rhetoric. He doesn't believe it and he will adopt the rhetoric of the left to call you a racist.

Now, with that in mind look what he said about tax cuts in 2001. He said, I cannot in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us at the expense of the middle class Americans who need tax relief. This is the classic rhetoric of the left. Tax cuts only benefit the rich. Be honest. If John Kerry would have said that, quote, word for word, and he did, if Hillary Clinton said that quote, and she did, you would be hammering them on it, hammering them. But somehow or another you're okay -- not you, I shouldn't say, but so many people are okay. That's the flip. That's where he was. Here's the flop. McCain now says he wants the tax cuts that he voted against to become permanent. Excuse me? His defense? He says to return to the old rate now would amount to a tax hike. True, it would be a tax hike but why is that bad? It's bad, he says, because it would hurt the economy. Well, how could it possibly hurt the economy? If it hurts the economy to have a tax cut, then you must admit that that's the exact opposite of when you cut taxes. You should have voted for it in the first place because if it hurts the economy to raise taxes, it must help the economy to lower taxes. And if the cut was bad, why would you want to keep it. If the cut only benefits the very wealthy and hurt the middle class, why would you want to keep it? And the Awful vilification of the rich eat the rich, the guy might as well be John Edwards. I think tomorrow we should play "Name that John." Is it John Edwards or John McCain.


My point is that all of them lie, make up shyt, and pander to whatever is good for their political career and advantage at the time. Obama, Clinton, and McCain, if you are going to call one out call all of them out. Because we all know a politician is a politician.

 

But only one of them is a Socialist. (that I know of)

Where's that popcorn smilie when you need it?

 

I think that option A could be a likely culprit. Much of the American public is amazingly ignorant of history, and perhaps he said Auschwitz because he figured more Americans knew it than Buchenwald. Or, perhaps, HE didn't know the difference.

I don't think it was with malice in his heart, though.

 

Surprisingly enough, Bill O'reilly was on Obama's side on this one saying it was a simple mistake but the intent of the message was the same. He berated others for taking it out of context.