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A Preview of Bush's Address to the Nation on Illegal Immigration

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Excerpts of Bush Address
May 15 5:53 PM US/Eastern
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By The Associated Press
Excerpts of President Bush's address Monday night on immigration, as

released by the White House.

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On Bush's ideas for immigration overhaul:

"We are a nation of laws, and we must enforce our laws. We are also a nation of immigrants, and we must uphold that tradition, which has strengthened our country in so many ways. These are not contradictory goals. America can be a lawful society and a welcoming society at the same time. We will fix the problems created by illegal immigration, and we will deliver a system that is secure, orderly, and fair."

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On border security:

"Since I became president, we have increased funding for border security by 66 percent and expanded the Border Patrol from about 9,000 to 12,000 agents. ... We have apprehended and sent home about 6 million people entering America illegally.

"Despite this progress, we do not yet have full control of the border, and I am determined to change that. Tonight I am calling on Congress to provide funding for dramatic improvements in manpower and technology at the border."

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On a temporary worker program:

"The reality is that there are many people on the other side of our border who will do anything to come to America to work and build a better life. They walk across miles of desert in the summer heat, or hide in the back of 18-wheelers to reach our country. This creates enormous pressure on our border that walls and patrols alone will not stop. To secure the border effectively we must reduce the numbers of people trying to sneak across."

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On enforcement:

"We need to hold employers to account for the workers they hire. It is against the law to hire someone who is in this country illegally. Yet businesses often cannot verify the legal status of their employees because of the widespread problem of document fraud. Therefore, comprehensive immigration reform must include a better system for verifying documents and work eligibility. ...

"A tamper-proof card would help us enforce the law and leave employers with no excuse for violating it. And by making it harder for illegal immigrants to find work in our country, we would discourage people from crossing the border illegally in the first place."

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On amnesty:

"We must face the reality that millions of illegal immigrants are already here. They should not be given an automatic path to citizenship. This is amnesty, and I oppose it. Amnesty would be unfair to those who are here lawfully and it would invite further waves of illegal immigration."

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On assimilation:

"We must honor the great American tradition of the melting pot, which has made us one nation out of many peoples. The success of our country depends upon helping newcomers assimilate into our society, and embrace our common identity as Americans. Americans are bound together by our shared ideals, an appreciation of our history, respect for the flag we fly, and an ability to speak and write the English language."

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On the tone of the debate:

"We must always remember that real lives will be affected by our debates and decisions, and that every human being has dignity and value no matter what their citizenship papers say."
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Not sure what to think after hearing the complete address. I would say cautiously optimistic, but I'm not willing to put that much faith in Bush on this issue. I don't think he really believes about 3/4 of what he said. If he did, he would have addressed this months ago. Has the public forced his hand into taking action, or his is trying to put the nation back to sleep on the issue with big talk and no action? I really don't know.

Notes from another article with some illegal's comments.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/05/15/D8HKF1TG2.html

Mexico has had a tough time convincing the U.S. that it is doing everything it can to prevent and provide alternatives to illegal migration, especially when it is dependent on the remittances migrants send home.

In 2005, migrants sent about $20 billion to Mexico, where remittances represent the second-largest source of foreign income, after oil sales.

Looking for someone to help him cross into the United States, Jorge Gutierrez said Monday it will take a lot more than U.S. National Guard troops to keep him and other migrants out.

"No guard, no wall will keep us from crossing," he said.

Jesus Rodriguez, 49, agreed. He was looking for ways to cross one of Juarez's international bridges. "For Mexicans, there are no obstacles," he said.

Francisco Loureiro, who runs a migrant shelter in Nogales, across the border from Nogales, Ariz., criticized the plan as an "aggressive action more than anything because the migrant is not a criminal or a terrorist."

"His only objective is to work ... and a government that supposedly lobbies for world peace is now acting against defenseless migrants who are helping to fill a need for employers in the U.S," he said.
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Not sure if I believe it, really.
One thing I've learned about George Bush is that he usually stands for his principles and doesn't care what anyone else thinks, polls, etc which is a good thing, we don't need a leader who goes the way of the wind.

If only he would've secured the borders after 9/11 the way we secured the
skies and went from there....
We certainly had the man power back then.

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Sourdoughman said:

Not sure if I believe it, really.
One thing I've learned about George Bush is that he usually stands for his principles and doesn't care what anyone else thinks, polls, etc which is a good thing, we don't need a leader who goes the way of the wind.

If only he would've secured the borders after 9/11 the way we secured the
skies and went from there....
We certainly had the man power back then.
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One of the things I thought about last night while watching the address was, when was the last time you saw a president on the air in an address to the nation talking about immigration policies? NEVER! Every issue that the guy has faced are all problems that were ignored and passed down by past presidents.......and I mean all of them. Not just democrats but all of them. You're not going to be the most popular man in the room when you attempt to tackle every issue of this magnitude.

Immigration, social security, terrorism....all problems that have been brewing or were a huge issue then that were passed down to Bush.

At least the guy is facing the problems and attempting to do something other than lobbing a few cruise missiles to the middle of the desert, or just granting amnesty to these illegals, or just ignoring the issue all together (social security).

Maybe he should have just ignored them like all the others and maybe he too could be one of the best black presidents of all time (aka Clinton)

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LsuCraig said:

At least the guy is facing the problems and attempting to do something other than lobbing a few cruise missiles to the middle of the desert, or just granting amnesty to these illegals, or just ignoring the issue all together (social security).
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He is doing it because the American people are forcing him to do it. If not, why did he wait almost 5 years since 9/11 to address it? Why did Congress wait? The only reason they are addressing this issue now is to try to keep their jobs. I give Tancredo, the Minutemen, and Michael Savage credit for this. They were the ones who originally brought this to light. The border security issue all started over concern about terrorists sneaking a nuclear device accross the border. These guys took it and ran, gave the open border national exposure, and are making a difference. They are the ones who should receive any credit due.

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marcmc99 said:

He is doing it because the American people are forcing him to do it. If not, why did he wait almost 5 years since 9/11 to address it? Why did Congress wait? The only reason they are addressing this issue now is to try to keep their jobs. I give Tancredo, the Minutemen, and Michael Savage credit for this. They were the ones who originally brought this to light. The border security issue all started over concern about terrorists sneaking a nuclear device accross the border. These guys took it and ran, gave the open border national exposure, and are making a difference. They are the ones who should receive any credit due.
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OK, because problems that have been ignored for the last 50 years have finally reached a crisis state, emphasized by reporters and citizens, Bush has finally decided to attempt to address the problems.

How's that?

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marcmc99 said:

He is doing it because the American people are forcing him to do it.
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I don't buy that. How is he forced? What does he really have to gain?

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I don't buy that. How is he forced? What does he really have to gain?
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He is caving to the demands of republican members of the senate and the house who are being bombarded over the issue by the American people. They can't afford to lose on this issue, and he can't afford to lose their support. One hand washes the other.

Not to mention, if he doesn't do something to right his political ship, there is no way in hell his brother will ever stand a chance of being elected if he decides to run (which W is encouraging him to do).

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He is caving to the demands of republican members of the senate and the house who are being bombarded over the issue by the American people. They can't afford to lose on this issue, and he can't afford to lose their support. One hand washes the other.

Not to mention, if he doesn't do something to right his political ship, there is no way in hell his brother will ever stand a chance of being elected if he decides to run (which W is encouraging him to do).
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Exactly, its too bad he just didn't do it right after 9/11!
Its too bad it took this to attempt to get the job done but at least something
is being done at this time!
I like GWB but he screwed himself on this issue in his first and second term.
9/11 was the perfect excuse to close then tighten the borders and he blew
it.

The only reason I'm not sure he is sincere is because it means he's done
a 180 from his policy towards this issue.

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marcmc99 said:

He is caving to the demands of republican members of the senate and the house who are being bombarded over the issue by the American people. They can't afford to lose on this issue, and he can't afford to lose their support. One hand washes the other.

Not to mention, if he doesn't do something to right his political ship, there is no way in hell his brother will ever stand a chance of being elected if he decides to run (which W is encouraging him to do).
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Let's just go to Mexico and whip Santa Anna Clause's ass (again) and make them another state. Teaching them:
1) English
2) How to treat the flag of the country you so much want to be a part of.
3) It's not nice to fool with Mother America
Of course, I'm teasing. But really, does Mexico have a military? Do they still use horses to pull the cannons into position? All they have to defend is the northern bountries. A threat from Mexico is about the same as what? Mississippi College for Women threatening to kick that Irish girl's team in Ind.'s ass in football?:lol: :usaflagwa

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