2 Questions for Republicans, Conservatives..

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  1. ashgeaux

    ashgeaux Founding Member

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    Right of center Independents, Bush voters, etc...

    I'm already regreting this post. I can already envision Crawfish's reply and Rex's new post over my first question.

    1. Does the thought of Kerry being elected worry you? I still think Bush will win and I'm confident about it. I was talking to my parents about it last night and I thought their answers were interesting, so I thought I would ask y'all. On the domestic side I'm not worried of what he would do. I don't think the House and Senate will pass much of his agenda, but I do worry about his HillaryCare Light happening, and it eventually turning to full blown HillaryCare. The taxes on the small businesses will hurt many people. I mostly worry about a shift to the left on everything. The Supreme Court should be the second most important issue. I don't want either nominating a radical, but I would rather a right-leaning Court. Not a court full of Thomas's and Scalia's, although I think their interpretation of the law is correct I realize others don't agree.

    I wouldn't feel as safe. I don't think Kerry would do badly on defense, but I prefer Bush's method. I trust Bush with our security, I don't trust Kerry. He's done nothing to give us a reason to think he'll be even close as tough as Bush, he can say all he wants his record says the opposite.

    So I wouldn't build a bunker in the backyard, but I would feel more comfortable with Bush in office for the next 4 years.


    2. Who would you like to see run in '08? McCain and Guiliani are already fighting for Bush's affection. Pataki will probably run. Owens from Colorado. My ideal ticket is Jeb Bush/Condi Rice. I know it won't happen and I don't want it to happen, but looking at the possible candidates they could be the best team. Another Bush will not get elected for at least 20 years and shouldn't, and he says he won't run. The campaigning will start November 3. I would vote for Guilliani in a primary, he's not a social conservative, but other than being pro-life I'm not either.
     
  2. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    Guiliani is the best choice at this point. Not sure if Condi Rice has had her chance ruined with going any further politcally with all the flack over the WMDs. I don't think anyone with this administration makes it any further politcally.

    Good post btw, you kept it sane and sensible.

    As far as the Supreme Court goes, someone on Fox News, I think their legal correspondent, the dude with the Italian name, said that he didn't think any of the judges would retire should Kerry be elected (O'Connor and Renquist if I am not mistaken). If Bush would be elected, he thought that they would retire so that other conservatives would replace them.
     
  3. marcmc99

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    The thought of Kerry being elected definitley worries me. I've said it several times before on here, other than homeland security/defense, the issue of Supreme Court Justices if of primary concern to me. I'm not so worried about healthcare, taxes - some, but I don't think Kerry can get enough support in Washington to make any real changes.

    I do think Kerry would be horrible on defense. I wouldn't want him guarding my lunchbox, much less America. Like they say, he caves under pressure from Howard Dean in a primary, I hate to think what he will do as president.



    Hard to call '08 right now. I think as of today Guiliani would be the best bet, although McCain might definitely get a lot of support again after all this mess as well. I don't think Jeb Bush would stand a chance, due to GH and GW already being there and having as much trouble as they have had. Too much of a royal family thing going on there too, I really wouldn't want to see it. I'd have liked to have seen J.C. Watts still being active and a possible VP candidate, but I don't know if he burned out or what happened with him. The way things are so screwed up now, I wouldn't rule out a third party making some noise by then (maybe a McCain/Lieberman ticket if they get fed up with the whole situation) Probably won't happen, but four more years of deteriorating American politics, and anything is possible by then. My guess as of right now would be Rudy. VP choice - too early to tell.
     
  4. martin

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    1. it worries me a little, in the sense that i think kerry is worse for national security, and i live in an area that is a huge terror target. i realize presidential elections arent really the biggest deal, and it probably only makes us like 1% less safe. but that is alot, and makes this election the most important one of my life. also i think kerry would be horrible for the economy, but realistically, i dunno how much that actually affects me. collectively it affects us alot, but just me, not so much difference.

    2. giuliani is great but mccain is miserable. i cant overstate how bad mccain is. bengal b and i are not happy at all with how he has taken huge steps to shut down free political speech with his campaign reform crap. i would be really pleased if giuliani was president.
     
  5. tiger fan 2001

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    Agree with all the post here so far
    I don't know exactly where Rudy is on everything but would have to think that a Rudy / J.C. Watts Ticket would be hard to beat althought I think JC may be thru with Wahington and wanting to be with his kids at home. I also wonder about a Rudy/LIeberman ticket although party affiliations make that one impossible

    Should be interesting in about three years. But this country will get turned around 1 election at a time.
     
  6. ashgeaux

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    Napaolitino or whatever. That makes sense. O'Conner could definetly hold on for 4 more years, although some conservatives would rather her retire, but she's still better than anyone Kerry would nominate.

    I'm no McCain fan. I wouldn't vote for him, other than a general election and that's a maybe. I like his stand on defense, but that's about it.

    My dream was to be Watts political advisor. My theory is that he will run for Governor of Oklahoma and then President. My future employment depends on it.

    I would vote for Lieberman, if I didn't care for the Republican. He is one of the few Senators I like.
     
  7. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    when lieberman promised gore he wouldnt abandon gore and run for president, he broke his promise before gore announced he wasnt gonna run again. then he claimed it was ok because he had talked to his rabbi about it, and found some sort of justification in the talmud. also he walks back from work on late fridays, because his backward caveman religion frowns on technology like cars. i could never vote for someone that stupid (i realize the inconsistency of voting for a christian, which is hardly less stupid. oh well)

    lieberman is right about the war, but overall he is an idiot mystic.

    "On his first Friday night in office, early in 1989, the Senate was working late -- so late, in fact, that Sen. Joseph Lieberman (D-Conn.), the Senate's only Sabbath-observant, Orthodox Jew, planned to sleep on a cot in the Senate gym since he could not ride home.

    Vice President Al Gore, then a senator from Tennessee, prevailed upon him to stay at his parents' nearby apartment. Having campaigned in New York, Gore was familiar enough with Orthodox traditions to turn the apartment lights on and off for Lieberman."

    - from some jewish website.

    can you believe that? cant flip a lightswitch? and this is a man we would vote for?
     
  8. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    Lieberman is my favorite democrat by far. He is definitely on the conservative side of the fence concerning defense/security/foreign policy. And of course pro-Israel. Republicans support Israel much more than Democrats do, that's obvious. So I would not be terribly surprised if he would ever switch parties. But I think ecomomically and socially he is too far left to switch.
     
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    a friend of mine was recently walking in a jewish section of brooklyn, and a jewish guy came and asked for his help, to flip a light switch for him, because of the sabbath, some jews shun technology on the sabbath. so my friend went in the guy's house and flipped the switch for him. this is the kind of stupidity you are dealing with when you talk about lieberman.
     
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    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    And martin, don't forget Leiter in 08.

    Go Al.....
     

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