I disagree. Syracuse has enough history and tradition to come back. All it takes is the right head coaching hire to bring it back. Recruiting ground could be retaken by the right coach. Paul Pasqualoni was very successful at the 'Cuse. I rather enjoyed the Donovan McNabb days at Syracuse. I have always kind of liked Syracuse. They also have a top notch broadcasting school as well.

so does USC.

so that's how carroll does it.


sorry, but i'd take a job at miss st, wash st, or baylor before trying out the cuse these days.

Miss St over Syracuse..umm, no. Wash St, give Pullman a visit some time. The closest tourist attraction is a prison or Idaho. Baylor is well...Baylor.

The other co-DC when he was at Texas was Duane Akina (LINK), a guy that had zero DC experience in his life (LINK). Akina was also the co-DC with Gene Chizik at Texas from 2005-2006. Akina became the sole DC in 2007, did poorly, and now it appears he just focuses on being a DB coach at Texas.

By all indications, Greg Robinson acted as the sole DC in 2004.

For example, here is a list of University of Texas Football press releases since 2001 -- LINK

During 2004, when Robinson was co-DC, they have twelve features throughout that season titled "Coaches' corner: Co-Defensive Coordinator Greg Robinson," where they sit down and discussed the Texas D with Robinson. They didn't have anything like that for the other co-DC, Duane Akina.

In the first "Coaches' corner" feature with Robinson, they call the Texas D "his system." (LINK).

Not seeing the big difference between Syracuse and Iowa State. Yes, Syracuse got worse under Robinson, but it wasn't doing that great before he got there. Besides, like I said earlier, I'm really not worried too much about how he did as a head coach. We are not looking for a head coach, we are looking for a DC. Two very different jobs with very different responsibilities. Look at Chizik, he was a great DC at Auburn and Texas, but he sucked when he became head coach at Iowa State.

Syracuse
1999 7-5 (Paul Pasqualoni)
2000 6-5 (Paul Pasqualoni)
2001 10-3 (Paul Pasqualoni)
2002 4-8 (Paul Pasqualoni)
2003 6-6 (Paul Pasqualoni)
2004 6-6 (Paul Pasqualoni)
2005 1-10 (Robinson)
2006 4-8 (Robinson)
2007 2-10 (Robinson)
2008 3-9 (Robinson)

Iowa State
1999 4-7
2000 9-3
2001 7-5
2002 7-7
2003 2-10
2004 7-5
2005 7-5
2006 4-8
2007 3-9 (Chizik)
2008 2-10 (Chizik)

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Over that span of time yes there aren't much differences. But Syracuse has a history of success on the football field. You could have said the same thing about LSU from 1990-1999. Iowa State has nowhere near the history or tradition of Syracuse.

Here are some chunks from the press release Texas issued after they hired Robinson as their DC:

As defensive coordinator, Robinson’s aggressive, attacking Chiefs’ units produced 70 sacks and forced 68 turnovers (43 interceptions/25 fumble recoveries) over the past two seasons. During that time, Kansas City posted a 21-11 record.

Last season, Robinson’s Chiefs’ defense produced 36 sacks (T-6th/AFC), 25 interceptions (2nd AFC/3rd NFL) and forced 37 turnovers (T-3rd AFC/5th NFL). Kansas City led the NFL in turnover margin with a +19 advantage in that category. In 2001, the Chiefs registered 34 sacks, 18 interceptions and forced 31 turnovers. They led the AFC and ranked third in the NFL in turnover margin that year.

Robinson established his reputation as a tremendous defensive coordinator in Denver, where he transformed a struggling defense into a Super Bowl Championship unit.

After inheriting a club that ranked last in total defense in 1994, Robinson made an immediate impact in his first season with the team, as the Broncos finished the 1995 campaign ranked 15th in the same category. By 1996, he had turned Denver into the league’s fourth-rated defensive unit, and by season number three in ’97, the Broncos were on their way to the first of two straight Super Bowl titles.

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The Broncos ranked in the NFL’s top 10 in total defense during three of Robinson’s six seasons at the club’s defensive helm, finishing seventh in ’99 (297.1 ypg), fifth in ’97 (291.9 ypg) and fourth in ’96 (279.4 ypg). Denver’s defenses were also stingy in the scoring column during his reign with the Broncos, producing three top 10 rankings in scoring defense — eighth in ’98 (19.3 ppg), sixth in ’97 (17.9 ppg) and seventh in ’96 (17.2 ppg). The team’s pass defense ranked among the league’s top 10 in four of his six seasons with Denver, finishing eighth in ’99 (188.5 ypg), fifth in ’97 (179.3 ypg), 10th in ’96 (196.2 ypg) and ninth in ’95 (206.1 ypg). Denver’s run defense ranked in the league’s top 10 three times during Robinson’s tenure. The run defense was highlighted when Denver led the NFL (83.2 ypg) in ’97 and ranked third ’98 (80.4 ypg).

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Robinson joined the Broncos after a five-year stint with the New York Jets (1990-94). He coached the defensive line from 1990-93 and served as defensive coordinator in ’94 when the Jets ranked eighth in the league by permitting just 20.0 points per game. Forcing turnovers and a stingy run defense were also a staple of Robinson’s defenses in New York. During his last four years with the Jets, the defense forced 151 turnovers, most in the AFC and second most in the NFL during that span. They also improved from 27th in the league in total defense in ’89 to eighth in ’93. New York’s rush defense also showed significant improvement, jumping to a fifth-place ranking (92.1 ypg) after allowing 133.5 yards per game in ’89.

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Comments on new Longhorn co-Defensive Coordinator Greg Robinson

Terry Donahue, General Manager, San Francisco 49ers
“Greg is an outstanding football coach, a terrific recruiter ... He has vast experience at the college and professional levels. Greg is a guy who has been at the top of the mountain, having coached and won in the Super Bowl and the Rose Bowl. Schematically, he’s a coach that is very difficult to prepare for. ... Greg is a great hire for Mack ..."

Dick Vermeil, Head Coach, Kansas City Chiefs
“In hiring Greg Robinson, the University of Texas is hiring a coach whose credentials cannot be matched by anybody else in Division I football. No college defensive coordinator is wearing two World Championship Super Bowl rings and has helped take another team – the Kansas City Chiefs – into the playoffs. Greg Robinson is truly one of the outstanding individuals...that I’ve ever had the opportunity to work with.”

Monte Kiffin, Defensive Coordinator, Tampa Bay Buccaneers:
“I’ve known Greg for a long time and he’ll bring a wealth of experience to The University of Texas. If you look back over the last three or four years, pro coaches with defensive backgrounds — like Nick Saban and Pete Carroll — have gone back to college and had a great deal of success. Greg is an outstanding and enthusiastic coach who will make a big impact on the Longhorns’ defense. He will do a great job at Texas. A lot of credit has to go to Coach Brown. He’s an outstanding recruiter of young athletes, but he did a great job recruiting Greg to be a part of the Texas program...”

Pete Carroll, Head Coach, University of Southern California:
"Greg Robinson has an extraordinary background filled with championship success. He will bring to Texas great energy, enthusiasm and a state-of-the-art defensive scheme. He'll be a great boost to the Longhorn program."

http://www.texassports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/012704aab.html

Then your a neophyte of college football knowledge. Syracuse won numerous conference titles, bowl games, national recognition, regularly supplied the NFL with top players and hardly had any losing seasons until Robinson arrived. And I didnt have to google that up either. Remember a coach named Mcpherson?

Iowa state from my memory has rarely had any winning seasons, been to a few meaningless bowls and I cant remember when they actually won one or even a conference title.

Again:

Syracuse
1999 7-5 (Paul Pasqualoni)
2000 6-5 (Paul Pasqualoni)
2001 10-3 (Paul Pasqualoni)
2002 4-8 (Paul Pasqualoni)
2003 6-6 (Paul Pasqualoni)
2004 6-6 (Paul Pasqualoni)
2005 1-10 (Robinson)
2006 4-8 (Robinson)
2007 2-10 (Robinson)
2008 3-9 (Robinson)

Iowa State
1999 4-7
2000 9-3
2001 7-5
2002 7-7
2003 2-10
2004 7-5
2005 7-5
2006 4-8
2007 3-9 (Chizik)
2008 2-10 (Chizik)

saw this and thought it was rather interesting:

http://pinstriped.wordpress.com/2007/12/08/syracuse-fires-greg-robinson/