1. He scored.


    They was a reply that ESPN showed first and it was an over the top view.

    His entire upper body crossed over the goal line from his thighs down did not. And while you could not physical see the ball, you could tell that it was aginst his chest with both arms covering it.

    I think people may have missed this first replay simply because they were picking up the remote that they just threw at the tv , running for paper towels to clean up the spilt beer or letting loose a river of obsenities.

    The booth view was the right call, because I would want them to look at it if it was us trying to score, and the call was the right one.
  2. I thought he scored, also. However, the official ruled otherwise and according to the rules there has to be conclusive evidence to reverse the call. There was no view that was conclusive if you can't see the ball break the plane.
  3. While this is true there has to be some form of common sense when it comes to ruling on the replay. His upper body crossed the goaline and the ball was not being fumbled nor was it in one of his hands trying to reach over the players to score.
  4. Oh, and the late hit out of bounds called on Sanders. That was not a late hit at all...
  5. I actually "lol'd" at that call... we were beating the crap out of them and apparently the refs wanted to cut them a break...

    we killed them in every aspect of the game, im not gonna worry about bs zebras when the games over...

    plus i had about 100 beers in me by then....
  6. That camera was not directly above the goal line. It was four or so yards away. From that angle, the top half of the pile will always look like it is over the line. Sort of like the way pitches off the first base side corner of home plate look better than pitches off the third base side.

    To illustrate, sit in the edge of your seat and hold your hand out over a spot. Look directly down and see your hand in line with that spot. Then, pull your head back a few inches and notice how your hand appears to move beyond that same spot.

    I don't know if he was in or not, but his body wasn't any farther forward than the goalline camera showed. It all depends where the ball was in his arms. Neither camera angle revealed that.
  7. Umm no it wasnt 4 yards away. If it was 4 yards away I would not have used it to support my answer.
  8. Well, as we seemed to be stuffing the ball up their butt all game, I guess the refs saw that body part cross the goal and just assumed the ball did too. :D
  9. perhaps it was a sympathy call. part of the whole "poor hokies have been through so much" drama that will plague every campus the hokies visit and every team that visits them this season. could we just play some football and leave all the non-football related emotion out of it?

    btw, i loved meauxjeaux2's "bishop ott charity work" comment. LOL!
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  10. Well, that's proof enough for me. :nope:

    I am watching it again right now. The camera is clearly above a point somewhere in front of the goalline; probably around the five yard line. An LSU player is standing straddling the goalline, and you can see his entire right side and none of his left side. Not just the top of his helmet and shoulder pads.

    That angle gives the illusion that players are farther advanced than they are. The sideline camera gives no illusion. That one is right on the goalline. The plane of the end zone cuts just to the left of the #5 on the runner's back (he's leaning forward). His top 1/3+ is over the plane. It's impossible for him to have been any farther than that. And, you still can't see the ball.

    It was probably a TD, but a reversal is supposed to require completely conclusive evidence.