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CajunPunk · Sep 7, 2006

I'm not sure if this was posted yet, but I've seen the new time clock rules mentioned a couple of times and wasn't sure if anyone was interested.

The kickoff rule doesn't bother me so much, but the change of possesion rule does.

http://www.wehatethenewclockrules.com/

Contained Chaos · Sep 7, 2006

Wow, they sure are getting a lot of love from Big-12 country.

Hawker45 · Sep 7, 2006

Good article on this subject at:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=maisel_ivan&id=2573344

"The two teams (FSU/Miami) combined for 110 offensive plays. So did Oklahoma and UAB on Saturday, the fewest number of snaps in a Sooners game in the last 50 years. That's also 17 fewer than the average for the rest of the I-A games on the first weekend and a whopping 31.4 plays fewer than the average in 2005.

Think about that. The Hurricanes and the Seminoles played nearly an entire quarter of football less than the average game a year ago."

I'm thinking, "That's not good!!":shock:

Hawker45 · Sep 7, 2006

Same article:

"We had 10 possessions," Florida coach Urban Meyer said Monday in his press conference of the Gators' 34-7 victory over Southern Mississippi. "That is not enough. You work awful hard and 10 possessions are just not enough. Alabama, LSU, and Ole Miss had nine. … Last year we averaged 14 possessions a game and we are down to 10 now."

I'm thinking, "That's not good, either."

Geaux4LSU · Sep 7, 2006

i know i saw somewhere that the SEC games were already the shortest. doesnt help much with a D dominated league to have less possesions. im sure its hard to wow voters with 17-7 scores. it also means even less of an already slim chance of an SEC'r winning the hypeman.

Hawker45 · Sep 7, 2006

I'm not sure being defensive minded is a huge factor. One could argue you would get the ball more often...
It probably has more to do with style of play in each offensive series.... again, from the article:

"Style of play has some effect on the number of plays. Notre Dame and Georgia Tech scored only one more point than did Florida State and Miami, yet the Fighting Irish and the Yellow Jackets combined for 130 plays. The Georgia Tech defense forced Notre Dame to attack wide, and the Irish went out of bounds regularly."

MikeDTiger · Sep 7, 2006

Edit: Sorry, I was just dead wrong. What I quoted were the same rules as last year. I just thought they were new as well. Sorry if I confused anyone…
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Has anyone actually looked at the NCAA rulebook?

Change of possession isn't necessarily the biggest time eater. Have you noticed the first down or penalty rule? I don’t think most people get it at all. When Miami jumped offsides late in the game, because of the penalty the game clock started when the whistle blew. FSU didn’t even realize it, they could have let another 15 seconds go off the clock. Watch the Oregon State - Boise State game tonight and pay attention to the game clock. Watch what happens on first downs, penalties, ...

The clock shall start on the snap unless it was stopped because of one of the following situations:

1. When Team A is awarded a first down (Exception: After a legal kick).
2. For a referee’s timeout for an injured player or official, or when the runner’s helmet comes off, or for an extended timeout for radio or television.
3. At the referee’s discretion (Rules 3-2-2-c and 3-4-3) (A.R. 3-3-2-IIIV).
4. To complete a penalty (Exception: After a delay foul by Team A while in scrimmage-kick formation).
5. For an inadvertent whistle (Exception: During a legal kick).
6. For a head coach’s conference or challenge.
7. For a sideline warning.
8. For an illegal pass to conserve time (A.R. 7-3-2-II-VIII).
9. For a measurement.
10. For a ball in an official’s possession.
11. For a fumble out of bounds in advance of the spot of the fumble (3-2-5-a).

b. If the clock was stopped for incidents 1 through 11, it shall be started on the ready-for-play signal.

c. If incidents 1 through 11 occur in conjunction with any other situation that starts the clock on the snap, the clock will start on the snap. (translation: out of bounds or incomplete pass trumps anything else on the list above)
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BrettStah · Sep 7, 2006

So if the average of the past weekend holds true for the rest of the year, then each team will average 63-64 plays per game. Interestingly, the average in the NFL last year was about 62-63 per game. So while it's definitely a decrease, it's not unheard of in football. I would prefer that they just scrap the college time-keeping rules and adopt the NFL rules, if the net result is the same. More consistent for the players, coaches, and fans who play, coach, and watch both college and the NFL.

LSUGradin99 · Sep 7, 2006

from the site referenced said:

the aforementioned reduction in the number of executed plays limits the opportunity for today’s athletes to scale the heights of record-breaking and historic athletic achievement by reducing the number of opportunities for the exhibition of excellence beneath the limits that were customary for their predecessors
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This doesn't carry much weight. There is an extra game now so it's more or less a wash.

khounba · Sep 8, 2006

LSUGradin99 said: ↑

This doesn't carry much weight. There is an extra game now so it's more or less a wash.
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Also they have added instant replay. If you wantched the Maimi - Forida State game it seemed like they were challenging every play from upstairs. It was starting to get rediculous. Oh well that is for another thread.

All I know is my wife likes the new rule because it makes the game shorter and we can get home earlier. This is not good. Something has to be done!!!!