Interesting poll amongst mostly non-basketball non-LSU hardcore fans...

Unlike most here...This was a completely unscientific poll which was on a local business and news website I frequent all the time...Scroll down to the poll results for "Who would you rather watch"...

www.daily-report.com

 

Well thats a no brainer TE. Anyone would rather hop on the bandwagon for a nubmer 1 team right? That is really a useless poll.

 

Far from useless...It just basically shows the natural progression of a fanbase...They will flock to a winner...

Just like people flocked to the baseball team...Just like people flocked back to the football team...and just like people are now flocking towards the women's basketball team...

They're flocking everywhere...Except for that area where the buzzards seem to be circling...Over John Brady's house...

 

You make a point. But what does that say about the fans? To me the poll says nothing. All it did was state the obvious. When you have a team thats number one, and a team thats a middle of the road team, its obvious that the fans will cling to the number one team. Hell, theres nothing wrong with that. The girls deserve the attention they are getting. But, all that poll proves is that fans are fairweathered. I'm not saying that is just here, so don't harass me for that. I see fairweathered all the time. If the LSU women were not number one, they'd get around 2,000-3,000 every game. Everyone wants to follow a winner. Hell can you blame them?

 

That's my exact point...Certain posters here think it would take a long, arduous route to change the collective mindset of this community...

It would take a matter of weeks...Bring in the Greenback Beret's headed by Brigatakadump General Ron Richard, and PAY someone to come in here and turn things around immediately...It worked in football.

We were Top 25 and having hard sellouts against Tennessee, MSU, Ole Miss, and Alabama...After a single season...

Same thing with the Sweet 16 team...All it took was a 12 or 14-0 start, and the P-MAC was capacity...It took WEEKS in that instance...

Just goes to show it'd take NO TIME to turn the program around...Only a decision, followed by another decision, with the 2nd one backed up by LOTS AND LOTS OF MONEY...

 

I dont know about all that. To me, it is the fans choice about whether they want to come watch or not. The fans could very easily fill the PMAC for some of these upcoming home games but they will choose not too. It's ashame really b/c the team is good at home and they are still in the hunt for the dance. But thats not the point. The point is the fans are bandwagon jumpers. If it doesnt win immidiately then it's not worth it. If the men don't jump out to a 10-0 start, then it's not worth there time or money. If they dont want to spend there money on LSU basketball its not my business. But, I'm a firm believer in the fact that fans help make the game. I know from playing, and as i say, on a much smaller scale, that when you play in front of a big crowd it brings out the best in you. It makes you want to play harder for all those people and show them that they should keep coming back. The men have not seen crowds like that. They probly wont. But, it would be nice if the folks tried to go see these guys and give them that good atmosphere to play in. Remember, its for the kids that put on the purple and gold. It's not about how they fare in the games, or who the coach is. It's about those kids wearing your team colors.

 

last year-- what was their record before losing jaime? They had an excellent record yet still didn't put butts in the seats. Many of the fans have become apathetic it seems and that is possibly the worst sign for a program and it will spell lights out for brady regardless if they make the dance. Skip will be forced to fire him based on attendance alone regardless the outcome of the team.

There is no right or wrong at this point. If you can't get fans interested even when you win then a change must be made. Skip's hand will be forced. I think many fans see the lack of an identity on many (including this years) of Brady's teams and thats a direct result of attrition which is the job of the HC. Much the same way fans can't relate to their once favorite baseball teams due to free agency and the like. Its just really hard to identify with these teams as those in the past.

Its not so many fans hate him....its just nothing that fans get overly excited for and the longer they've been away, the more apathetic and indifferent they've grown. Tack could have been the saving grace for Brady giving he brings a more uptempo albeit out of control brand of basketball though JB has not been able to harness it one bit. Not only has he not cradled any of Tack's ability, he's been forced to sit him and he was our supposed star recruit. That can't be good given our lack of depth, obviously.

The fact Brady was forced to promise a more uptempo, exciting brand of basketball before the season partly contributes to this years less than typical-tough-team defense, especially from the guards however, our lack of guard size seems to be the biggest problem.


So it seems its an overall contingent of variables which has led LSU basketball to its current point. Its not one thing that can be pinpointed though the head coach is ultimately responsible. Once again, we have an inconsistent yet good team with little promise to make a lot of noise even if they make the tournament. We're not bad, we're not that good, we're not great, we're not horrible.

Many here said last year Brady should be fired if we dont make the sweet sixteen and i replied how stupid that comment was given this team would be without last years best player and no true guard play. you can't put an arbitrary number of wins on a coach at this level with so many variables yet you can judge a team on its progress and development throughout.

So, as I ramble on and on about what I am not sure. Has this program offered promise or hope to those who follow it? Do you think players develop and progress under John Brady? Do you see hope outside of Bass who is a certain NBA player? Is Big Baby and Tasmin enough to resurrect this program and spare john brady his job?

So while I reserve judgment til season's end, which is only fair, I do get the sense that regardless if we win 2 games in the dance if we were to make it, something still won't be right with the fans and ultimately, that will be john brady's seemingly uncorrectable dilemma. Or maybe I'm just wrong altogether.

 

Unfortunately for the kids that are playing on our team, the seats at the PMAC will NOT be filled until John Brady is fired. The fans have made their feelings known about his antics off-court and on-court and are embarassed by him. They are embarassed that he represents our university. They have suffered through this embarassment for years. I know this first hand because my family has held season tickets since the days of playing ball in the cow palace. There was a lot of soul searching before purchasing them this season. They will NOT be purchased next year if John Brady remains.

He does not represent the best that LSU has to offer in ALL of its other sports. He has given LSU a black eye and it is long past time for Bertman to do something about it.

To even begin to "accept" the product he has turned out is unbelievable. Never in my 53 years have I seen LSU "accept" mediocrity as "the best we can do." It is unfair to the student athletes on this team. Name me one player that has come in and actually improved under his coaching. We have recruited some outstanding "raw" talent through his years. However, that talent has not seen the improvement normally present under a good coach and for that matter - most of it leaves! And the greater majority of those that have left early have cited Brady as the reason.

The fact that we continue to attract outstanding talent is a credit NOT TO JOHN BRADY but a definite credit in a large part to Butch Pierre. Skip let a golden opportunity slide by when he did not fire Brady earlier in the season and let Butch slip into the "interim" position. It would have been an excellent opportunity to see how he could handle this team if given a chance. I say it was a missed opportunity because I do not believe Skip will hire him outright as the next coach should Brady be fired at the end of the season.

It is heartbreaking to remember the growth of LSU basketball back in the 80's. It was exciting and definitely a money maker. To see what it has been allowed to fall to is heart breaking.

 

"To even begin to "accept" the product he has turned out is unbelievable. Never in my 53 years have I seen LSU "accept" mediocrity as "the best we can do."

Unfortunately mediocrity has been the rule rather than the exception for most of your fifty-three years. Coaches Henry, Saban, and Bertman are the only top coaches that LSU has hired, that I can remeber.
Brown was not in the coaching elite although he was a great promoter. Charlie Mack was a great guy but during his tenure he had some of the best facilities and fan support in the country but was routinely beaten by the Bear, Osborne, and Paterno. The womens basketball program was mediocre until Pokey came along and started recruiting super athletes.
Brady and Butch are bringing in the athletes but it is yet to be seen if he can coach them to a championship level.

 

good, refreshing perspective among all of these myopic brady lovers around here. funny, how we're so willing to accept mediocrity in our basketball program but wouldn't stand for it on the football field. although I never believe in canning a coach in mid-season, it would have been nice to see if these players would have rallied around pierre. I have been saying for a while that LSU can do much better than the scowl of john brady.