Which poll? I would be surprised if the Coaches had us #5.

that’s the bottom line

It was the 1st thing that popped up on a quick google search. I’m not going to dive in deep, it’s not worth it. Besides, Saban was the coach at Bama 4 years ago no? And pictures don’t lie. I’m pretty sure all those kids come from wealthy families who supply them with flashy cars on fancy rims and rolls of cash. You’re smart enough to do the math.

Cheating happens every where, including Alabama. It’s not the sole reason players go there, but let’s not act like it doesn’t exist. You asked why they never been tagged with a violation, I said “Great Question”. LSU just barely got caught and it wasn’t even because the NCAA caught us. The NCAA is hot shit.

Couldn’t tell you. I think they got that before all the opts out. I would assume because we were defending national champions and got the benefit of the doubt. Every single year a team ranked in the top 10 preseason finishes unranked.

Penn State was #7 they’re sitting at 1-5

You’re desperate to argue that Coach O sucks. I get it. But I’ve told you, I’m not a Coach O apologist. Go argue with Kiki

Here is another “old article” They’re all over the place. Point was, they don’t get investigated. Don’t shoot the messenger.

TUSCALOOSA, Ala. -- Five Southeastern Conference football players, including former Alabama All-American tackle D.J. Fluker, allegedly received impermissible benefits prior to completing their collegiate careers. According to a Yahoo! Sports report, former Alabama defensive end Luther Davis acted as an intermediary between the players and multiple NFL agents and financial advisers. The report says Davis funneled money and benefits totaling $45,500 to Fluker, Tennessee starting defensive end Maurice Couch, former Volunteers quarterback Tyler Bray, and former Mississippi State playersFletcher Cox and Chad Bumphis. The allegations would violate NCAA bylaw 12.3.1.2, which prohibits athletes from receiving extra benefits from prospective agents or marketing representatives. The violation could impact Fluker's eligibility and potentially the Alabama wins he participated in, including the 2012 Discover BCS National Championship. A second Yahoo! Sports report alleges that former Alabama safety Mark Barron accepted money while he was recovering from a shoulder injury as a junior in 2011 that kept him from declaring for the NFL draft. Text messages obtained by the website show that Barron was asked to repay money after signing with a competing sports agency. Alabama coach Nick Saban said Wednesday he supports the school's compliance department and then refused to answer further questions on the matter.

I don't know what kinds of cars Bama players are driving. All I know is what I stated previously & that was I don't think Bama has been found guilty of any major recruiting violations recently. Does Bama boosters play Bama players? Probably. Do TAF fat cats play LSU players? Probably. Most major schools are probably doing so. The NCAA apparently accepts it for what it is.

Agreed. All I was getting at was that they don’t get investigated. I don’t know why, my hunch was Sabans relationship with Emmert.

I got caught up too much in semantics.

Saban had opt outs too. Yet, he's a 4 TD favorite. I gett he feeling if they win by only 7-21, we covered da spread! thread) it will be considered a minor victory on this board by many. That's too sad for words, really.

I'm not shooting the messenger. I just don't put a lot of faith in what one Yahoo reporter thinks. Perhaps he has a hard on for Saban/Bama for whatever reason(s).