This is a poorly coached team. No other way around it.

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  1. dvm4lsu

    dvm4lsu Founding Member

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    LSU played a better team. next year is our year. One year ago LSU with no because of Saban we were NC. I think your assessment of our coaches is ridiculous. Take the good with the bad.
     
  2. LSUfan

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    I honestly don't think the season's results would have been different had Saban started JR. Randall didn't lose the AU game for us, and he didn't lose this game either. Of course it is a matter of opinion for who should start, but I don't think QB play has been the difference. Defense has, against the good teams we are not giving last year's effort.
     
  3. Crip*TEAM KATT

    Crip*TEAM KATT As Wild As We Wanna Be

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    Its not the quarterbacks themselves, its the mentality of the team. by Saban not showing faith and picking one guy for the job it shows a lack of trust to the rest of the team. And that is the way this team is playing like they don't really care or have faith in their coach.

    And the key to seeing this is to watch the players that are away from the ball at the end of a play. In the 1st quarter today i saw lineman walking back to the huddle as the play was still going on. This team has no heart or desire this year, and I think and feel a large part of that is due to the image that saban has projected.
     
  4. BostonBengal

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    The coaches didn't coach fumbles and missed tackles because the player didn't wrap up.

    I don't think this was a poorly coached team today....Just a team that was definately not ready to play this game. Does that fall on the coaching staff? Perhaps...but I think Saban and his staff, through past experience, had a gameplan installed that they thought would work. Our guys just didn't execute today.
     
  5. Tiger Dabbs

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    Yeah? Were you saying the same thing back in January?

    Same coach that one the NC is the same one that coached today. :dis:
     
  6. LSUfan

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    It's hard to disagree because I did see that when we had a choice between Booty or Davey. We started Booty, and the team did not respond when he was behind center. However, when Davey was in the team played better . . . so you may have something there.

    The difference is that I don't see Randall losing games for us like Booty did. We may see Russell start from here on out, I just wonder if fans will be as critical of Russell as they are of Randell. Not blaming you or calling you out, but I have seen some post on this board from others that make it seem like Randall is the reason we are losing. Randall didn't fumble the ball, miss tackles, or drop passes. JR didn't set the world on fire either, we lost by almost 30 points and JR had plenty of time to set up some scoring drives that didn't happen.
     
  7. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    Coaches are fine....same coaches that won the NC last year.

    But the decision to stick it out with Randall was a poor one. Randall doesn't belong on the field on many division 1-A teams. Everyone needs to just come to grips with that reality.

    Russell from the first snap of OSU game would have probably won the Auburn game for us, giving him the added experience he would have needed to deliver us a victory. But this game had nothing to do with the QB situation. We got our asses whipped, and good.

    The schedule is as much in our favor next year as it wasn't in our favor this year. The experience the O-line, D-line, receivers and Qb is getting will be exactly what we need to get the NC back next year. All is not lost. Just look at it as a downpayment for next year.
     
  8. Crip*TEAM KATT

    Crip*TEAM KATT As Wild As We Wanna Be

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    i agree with you and I in no way blame either one them for losing any game, its hard to find a rythum with a team when you are spliting time during the games. And having to worry about every little time you make one mistake you are gonna get pulled that does nothing but hurt a team. I love Saban and think he is the best thing to happen to LSU since the forward pass, But he and his coaching staff dropped the ball so far this year.

    But Randall will be the scapgoat this year just like Booty was in the past. Some fans are blind when it comes to breaking down a game and looking at all points.
     
  9. Crip*TEAM KATT

    Crip*TEAM KATT As Wild As We Wanna Be

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    I always enjoy and usually agree with everything you say but I gotta get you on this one.

    If it was a bad decision to stick it out with Randall, who made that decision?

    And if the coaches are Fine, then How can it have been a Bad Decision?

    I'm not saying that they are bad, I am just saying that they made some bad choices.
     
  10. LSUfan

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    Good points. I have made it point on this board in the past to say that I am not a Randall/Russell fan. I stand by that, I have a hard time looking at games we lose and singling out one player as the hero (or outstanding player). I usually stay away from naming a goat, and placing all the blame on him.

    I'm not sure if Saban had started Russell from game 1 that things would have been different. I don't think Randall sucks, and I do feel Russell will be a great player for us in the future. This year is a tough call to see who should start. How much room for error does Randall have with fans, and how much does Russell have? If Russell is not starting then I feel it is because he doesn't fully know the reads, plays, and may not be able to call an audible on the line. That has to the reasons, because Russell does have more talent. However, I don't think Randall has lost games for us. Poor protection and missed tackles have been harder for us to overcome . . . at least more than the 2 QB system.
     

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