1. We saw TM7 get needlessly hit after the TD. How many yards into the endzone does a player need to be before the ref will call a late hit? For those who missed it there is a great retaliation hit seen at the end of the return, (see other thread). 2. What are the rules on a forward fumble? Hilliard got a first down with his. I know I have seen them brought back to the spot of the fumble in the past. Maybe that is the NFL? Or maybe fourth down?
That definitely should have been a late hit on #14 for the Pigs. No doubt. As for the fumble rule.....in the NFL, the offense can't advance a fumble. Not sure if that rule applies to college. In college, you can't advance a recovered muffed punt. Am I right here gang?
I think the hit in the end zone is a judgement call by the zebra. I don't think there's anything specified in the rule book as to distance.
You can advance a muffed punt as long as you didn't signal fair catch. EDIT - Oh wait, I guess you mean by the kicking team? Right, the kicking team cannot advance a muffed punt. Fumble rules are murky. I know in the NFL, the offense cannot advance their own recovered fumble on 4th down or in the two minute warning, unless the original ball carrier recovers the fumble. I'm pretty sure a fumble that is traveling forward and goes out of bounds should be spotted where the fumble occurred.
completely subjective. if hes just crossing the goal line and you come flying in all terry tate on his ass you get a penalty regardless. clearly this dude should have been flagged as he was way late. you cant hit the guy usually when its obvious hes scored. you cant intentionally fumble forward. again, judgment. since they deemed it unintentional we get the ball where we recovered it. in the nfl you can do the same as long as it isnt 4th down or within 2 minutes of the half. then it can only be recovered by the dude who lost it. sure they can as long as it fits within what i said above. correct. otherwise reggie bush would average 2000 yds a year fumbling forward and out of bounds whether intentionally or unintentionally.
If you remember, they video reviewed the spot on that play. I not sure on the rules, but I believe the ruling was that he recovered the ball in-bounds. Had it gone out of bounds without him regaining possession, it would have gone back to the spot of the fumble.
why are you guys talking about the NFL we are talking about LSU if the ball went out of bounds it would be spotted at the point of the fumble #27 had control of the ball before the ball went out of bounds
I do remember that, and I was wondering what the ruling was. I thought initially that it had gone out of bounds before being recovered.
I have seen the "no advance" rule applied in college as well. Several years ago, Auburn was playing UGA and had a 4th down while trailing late in the game. One of their wideouts with the unpronouncable names ("Obamarashado" or something like that) caught the ball for the first down and then ran about 50 more yards. At the 5, an UGA player forced a fumble, which went into the endzone. An Auburn player eventually recovered it, but because the play happened on 4th down, the TD didn't count, but Auburn got the ball on the 5 and ended up kicking the GW field goal. It was such an odd call because he was so far past the first down when he fumbled that the reason for the rule (not to allow someone intentionally fumbling to a teammate for the first down in despiration) was completely irrelevant. It made it a very memorable play. On Hilliard's play, I expected it to count as a first down whether he recovered it or not. I will say, that while the resulting TD was satisfying, that was one of the ugliest drives you will ever see. GEAUX TIGERS
I believe the rule is that a fumble can be advanced unless it's on 4th down, and then it must be recovered by the person who fumbled the ball.
