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dallastigers · Mar 1, 2004

Originally posted by MiketheTiger69
Excuse the hell outa me for my selfish presumptuosness to expect the largest company of its kind in the world to fairly compensate me for career ending and life changing injuries I sustained while performing the job they hired me for my skill! I guess I should have just gone to them and told them that I would be glad to go and work for them for free as soon as I recovered to pay for the equipment I wrecked while driving on that ice in those 60 mile an hour winds. I guess I should just feel guilty as all get out for lying there upside down, hanging in my seat belt while that other truck plowed into me! Imagine the gall on mine and others part for expecting to be treated fairly and for expecting that there be a system in place for all people to be treated fairly when injured on the job. You know, looking back on it all now, I just can't imagine that I could think such a thing. How greedy of me!
For not knowing anything about my condition, you sure are judgmental. I guess you have somehow managed to review my files and you are an expert on these things.
I don't try to work because I cannot tell anyone from day to day with any certainty if they can rely on me. I feel I owe that to an employer. Some days I can hardly make it out of bed. Other days I feel pretty good. But I can't ask anyone to base their business on that.
And I don't ask the government to take care of me. I qualified for SS disability and I get a pension from the Teamsters and I have medical insurance with my wife. so I take care of myself. And I'm not angry, in spite of what you think. I placed it all in God's hands and that is how it worked out. I accept that and go on.

But this is how W shows his concern for the common man. During the presidential debate in Boston in 2000, he said, "First and foremost, we've got to make sure we fully fund the LIHEAP (Low Income Home Energy Asistance Program) which is a way to help low-income folks, particularly here in the East, pay for their high fuel bills" He then sliced $300,000,000.00 out it, even as people were freezing to death. I'm sure you approved of that if it saved you a few bucks in taxes. After all, what's a few frozen corpses in comparison to some nice warm bucks in your pocket!
In August 2002 he held a photo op with the Quecreek coal miners, the nine men whose rescue thrilled the country. By then he had already cut the coal safety budget at the Mine Safety and Health Administration by 6% and named a coal industry executive to run the agency. Like putting the fox in charge of the henhouse.

WE have hundreds of thousands of elderly and poor people who can't afford food and medicines or health care and he can't find the money for it but he can find $87,000,000,000.00 to give to Iraq. We support Egypt to the tune of $300,000,000.00 a year to keep them from attacking Israel. Corporate welfare is rampant and he gives big business tax breaks to outsource American jobs. Just this year in Oklahoma alone, Kwikset locks, Lee Jeans and Black and Decker have closed plants here to relocate in the Caribbean or Mexico taking over 7000 jobs with them. And he encourages this stuff, saying it's good for the economy. Am I missing something here?

"I don't understand how poor people think, but as a white Republican guy who doesn't get it, I'd like to."
GWHB to Rev. Jim Wallis of Call to Renewal, a network of churches that fight poverty.
Yessir, this guy really cares about the common man.

I have a question for all you W drones. If the oil and other assets and subsequent profits in Iraq belong to the Iraqi people, as W and Cheney and Rumsfeld, et al claim, why doesn't the oil and other natural assets and subsequent profits in America belong to the American people?

Somebody please, wake somebody up!

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:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: Thanks for proving my point about you.

dallastigers · Mar 1, 2004

Re: Voodoo Economics, it's a Republican Tradition

Originally posted by phatcat
Using a massive tax cut for the wealthiest Americans to fire up the economy is a brilliant idea.

In theoryÉ Unfortunately in the real world theory is often far from fact.

In theory, it is analogous to generating electricity by use of a controlled fusion reactor. Simply put, a massive influx of power applied to the reactor is required to heat the reactor material up until it attains a point of critical mass, after which it is able to continue easily on itÕs own power, thereby creating a dirt cheap self sustaining electrical supply. Sounds great in theory but even though multiple billions have been spent in the effort it has yet to happen in reality.

A large top loaded tax cut is a lot like that initial influx of power needed to drive the reactor to critical mass. It has been tried in the past and has yet to pay back more money towards long term national debt reduction than was initially pulled out of the treasury to fuel the process.

When we the taxpayers accept a top loaded tax cut like BushÕs, we are in effect gambling with our federal treasury money that the wealthiest people will invest their tax savings wisely in American business and in so doing, make so much more personal profit than they would have made otherwise without that additional investment that, even at the lower rate, they will send more money into the treasuryÕs coffers while at the same time stimulating the economy.

Unfortunately, the ultra wealthy and corporations are far too savvy to fall for that. They stimulate the economy all right, but by the use of every tax loophole imaginable, some legal some not so legal, they manage to avoid paying their taxes. This in effect results in a net increase in the budget deficit and a further strain on the economy due to the interest that must be paid on the debt which by definition ballooned when we gave the investors that free loan with which to make more profit for themselves in the first place.

So big tax cuts do stimulate the economy but they donÕt help lower the ever growing budget deficit that makes our government more dependent on foreign money backing the loans paying the interest on AmericaÕs long term debt because tax avoidance among the wealthiest Americans stops the economy and government synergy from ever achieving the critical mass required to sustain itself.

Without the theoretically projected tax money generated by the additional profits being paid, the tax cut in reality is not fiscally responsible tax policy for the government but simply a windfall profit for the Republican core constituency, the ultra wealthy, and a free handout to them from the rest of us.

In addition, once we as patriotic citizens have dutifully invested our tax refund in American businesses, these same businesses have begun to outsource their manufacturing and service jobs out side the country, costing jobs and income for Americans while the companies still enjoy their new massive tax cut and near negligible taxes.

What would Dubya do, you ask?

ÒOne of the ways we've got to make sure that we keep our economy strong is to be wise about how we spend our money. If you overspend, it creates a fundamental weakness in the foundation of economic growth. And so I'm working with Congress to make sure they hear the message -- the message of fiscal responsibility.Ó Bush Òstressing Budget Discipline and Fiscal Restraint in Iowa [9/16/02]

About 6 months after this statement, Bush proposed his budget that would sink the government more than $374 billion into deficit. National Journal noted on 2/12/02, that BushÕs own 2004 budget figures show that without the Bush tax proposal, the deficit would drop after 2006, but with the Bush tax cuts the deficit will continue to grow.
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Those little glitches that pop up in your post have to be from copying and pasting your posts from websites and also again without using quotation marks. Looking at the content why would you want to take credit for these statements?

dallastigers · Mar 2, 2004

Originally posted by CottonBowl'66
.... so they repeat them over and over until people assume that they ARE true. It is the same principle as Hitler's BIG LIE theory.

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I think you may be getting confused with your own posts.

phatcat · Mar 2, 2004

<Those little glitches that pop up in your post have to be from copying and pasting your posts from websites and also again without using quotation marks. Looking at the content why would you want to take credit for these statements?>

1) To begin with what little glitches are you referring to?

2) The previous post was written entirely by me except for the last two paragraphs, the origin of which are I think self explanatory.

3) Blow me.

Thanks for dropping by, and come back any time, you heah?

dallastigers · Mar 2, 2004

Originally posted by phatcat
<Those little glitches that pop up in your post have to be from copying and pasting your posts from websites and also again without using quotation marks. Looking at the content why would you want to take credit for these statements?>

1) To begin with what little glitches are you referring to?

2) The previous post was written entirely by me except for the last two paragraphs, the origin of which are I think self explanatory.

3) Blow me.

Thanks for dropping by, and come back any time, you heah?
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Touched a nerve I see. The same glitches that have been in all your quotes I mean posts.

phatcat · Mar 2, 2004

Dallastiger, What kind of computer do you use, a PC or a Mac?

dallastigers · Mar 2, 2004

Both - depending on when and where.

Why is it just some kind of font issue?

G_MAN113 · Mar 2, 2004

Originally posted by MiketheTiger69
I have a question for all you W drones.
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You'll just have to excuse me, but I think it's hysterical for a Teamster or any member of any other union to call anybody else a "drone". You guys think in lockstep with the way your union bosses tell you to think, you vote in lockstep the way they tell you to vote, recite the union line in lockstep with the way they tell you to recite it...and all the while, through your union dues, you're actually paying for the privilege of not thinking for yourselves. You really have no room to call anybody a drone, pal.

phatcat · Mar 2, 2004

<Why is it just some kind of font issue?>

I'm not sure if it's a font issue or a browser issue. Safari works great on my Mac, but I experience the occasional odd problem in interacting with PCs at some sites.

Could be a font issue, could be a browser issue, or it might be something else entirely.

MiketheTiger69 · Mar 2, 2004

Originally posted by G_MAN113
You'll just have to excuse me, but I think it's hysterical for a Teamster or any member of any other union to call anybody else a "drone". You guys think in lockstep with the way your union bosses tell you to think, you vote in lockstep the way they tell you to vote, recite the union line in lockstep with the way they tell you to recite it...and all the while, through your union dues, you're actually paying for the privilege of not thinking for yourselves. You really have no room to call anybody a drone, pal.
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GMan, I ask you once again, "Just what, exactly do you KNOW about the Teamsters" or any other union, not what lies you have been told by union hating industrialists?
When you can answer that, come back and we'll talk.

And Dallastiger, just what point might that be?