Election 2020

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  1. USAFRet66.86

    USAFRet66.86 COTiger is cool

    @fanatic & @LSUpride123 Correct me I'm wrong. I'm certainly no cyber security expert. Are you saying that wiping the audit logs is a 100%, undisputable sign of fraud? TIA.
     
  2. fanatic

    fanatic Habitual Line Stepper

    It's a 100% indication that someone did something to the system that they're trying to hide. It's impossible to do on accident or blame on human error.
     
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  3. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

    Why else would you wipe them?

    An audit log lets you know time stamps, who logs in, what was done, what was changed. It can tell you if someone inserted a USB, uploaded, downloaded, etc. Very important. Deleting it is covering your tracks.

    They might still be able to find them. Very hard to truly delete something. Would need serious hardware to get deleted information back. They might of tried. I dont know.
     
  4. mancha

    mancha Alabama morghulis

    Both the audit and the response say that more investigation is needed. I am all for that. I read the audit again. Stuff I don't really have knowledge or experience with in there so I have to go with what is said.

    Antrim County is 62% Republican and 32% Democrat. Median age is 50. Lot of olds there. This conservative republican county in northern Michigan is ass backwards on their hardware, software, and procedures. I put this on the county. However, should the state have certified the equipment? I know in Texas, the county decides on how it counts ballots.

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    There are only 22,082 registered voters in Antrim. 16ish thousand people voted. I am not sure. The numbers change with each count. Trump got about 2/3 of the vote so it is in line with the population's political leaning.

    An error is acknowledged in the initial count and was corrected. (Sides disagree in what the error was). The correction favored Trump. Official counts on Nov 21 again favored Trump. This county could only favor Trump. Of course, this county did not decide the Presidential election but, the down ballot was really fucked up. Should there be a Marijuana dispensary in the town? IDK.
    Who was really elected to the school board?
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    If we believe that there was election fraud, Antrim County Republicans are not unblameable. More investigation is needed.
     
  5. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

    What does it say to you?

    If there wasn't anything done that was illegal then why are they erasing the data (which I think may be a crime). Why, what are they trying to hide?
     
  6. HalloweenRun

    HalloweenRun Founding Member

    If you want more info on the Antrim issue, there are several Twitter threads that are quite nerdy about the Forensic Report. The guy kicking this analysis off is Kevin Skogland, and a separate series of Tweets by the name of Trapezoid of Discovery. Both the guys appear to know what they are talking about. But I don’t know.

    if you have Twitter, look them up. I know several of you have stated you have had cyber security positions so you might interested in this analysis and level of detail, and regardless you will understand it much better than me,

    Here is the summary:

    "So, to sum it all up: ASOG claimed they have evidence of election tampering, but their 'evidence' was actually just bad exception handling in the Dominion software, which to be fair - is not great!! - but is not itself proof that any tampering occurred.For a group of "cyber terrorism experts", this is a really embarrassing mistake to make. I'm not sure if they were being intentionally misleading, or just interpreted the error wrong, but either way, it should call into question their credibility.
     
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  7. mancha

    mancha Alabama morghulis

    I am not a believer in truth from Twitter.

    Based on reading both the audit and the response in court, Antrim County votes need to be hand counted. There were votes on the down ballot that were flipped from the first count to the second count. Significant ones for the cities in the county. Not for the presidential candidates. It need to be counted until counts are repeated.

    according to statements made, hand counts were not asked for.
     
  8. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

    Why would anyone have faith in a system with no audit trail and a near 70% error rate? Regardless if you think its fraud or not. That is fucking terrible.
     
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  9. kcal

    kcal Founding Member

    this times 1000....

    Tom Vaughan
    @tomvaughan

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    14h

    We are witnessing an insidious shift in our relationship w/ government. We have gone from the burden being on the state to prove that the legal safeguards to prevent fraud were followed to the burden now being on the general public to prove there was fraud
     
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  10. HalloweenRun

    HalloweenRun Founding Member

    I am very skeptical of Twitter, I was just looking for some explanation for the vast gulf between what "the system" says is truth and what these consultants claim as truth. What I do believe in is Ockham’s Razor! From voluminous other sources, hand counts have been made, but no candidate asked for one. I think they are making yet another count today.

    OBTW, The Detroit Free Press has a pretty thorough explanation. A Google search will produce it.
     
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