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LSUGradin99 · Aug 20, 2009

How MSNBC presented it:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYKQJ4-N7LI&e[/media]
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DRC · Aug 20, 2009

MSNBC and NBC are the biggest embarrassments. I cant believe anyone would even watch those channels.

Pretty funny how they talk about "white people showing up with guns" and relate it to a black President when the guy they are taking about with the guns is a black man! :insane:

LSUMASTERMIND · Aug 20, 2009

They black guy with the AR-15 was part of some hoax, from what I read, but the gun was real.
But there was a white guy with an AR-15 on the other side of the street as well.

On Monday, a dozen people packing heat -- including at least one man carrying a semi-automatic assault rifle -- were spotted at a pro-health care rally next to the convention where President Obama was speaking. While it appeared at the time to be a random incident, similar to several other gun sightings at health care events, it's become clear today that this time the gun show was at least partially planned.

The man with the semi-automatic (referred to in interviews as "Chris," no last name) was spotted at the protest by CNN news cameras, in the middle of a Q&A. Today, his interviewer -- Ernest Hancock of conservative talk radio show Declare Your Independence With Ernest Hancock -- went on CNN and explained to host Rick Sanchez that he and Chris were actually in the middle of a radio broadcast. Hancock, also packing heat at the rally, had invited Chris to come down the protest with his rifle to be interviewed. The two men had known each other for two years, through their work for presidential hopeful Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas).

During the segment on CNN, Rick Sanchez said, "the more we look into this, the more it appears that it was really planned." Hancock concurred: "Oh, it's more planned than you think." In addition to scheduling the interview, Hancock had also informed the local police force.

As the interview continued, Rick Sanchez loudly exclaimed, "This was a publicity stunt!"

"Oh absolutely," Hancock responded.

Sanchez pushed on, "isn't there something terribly disingenuous about putting people on like that? And isn't there also something a little bit... dangerous about playing these kinda games--"

"Oh, it's not a game," Chris interjected.

"---with what I imagine is a loaded weapon," Sanchez continued.
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Chris is also featured in a YouTube video produced by the libertarian group Freedom's Phoenix. In this video he expounds further on his right to bear arms. He also explains that he is "absolutely totally against health care... health care in this way, in this manner, stealing it from people. I don't think that's appropriate."

Despite being heavily-armed at all times, Chris didn't seem to have violent intentions. At the beginning of the video, someone asks Chris whether he plans to "water the tree of liberty." Chris responded, "I hope not."

This is a reference to a Jefferson quote, "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Another gun bearing protester in New Hampshire, William Kostric, was holding a sign with that same Jefferson quote. He apparently served as an inspiration to the two men. From Hancock's interview on CNN: "It was Thursday that I called and talked to Al Ramirez, the representative from the Phoenix police department, and we were discussing -- we've been around this rhetoric that was building up around William Kostric, who did this in New Hampshire."
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In this instance MSNBC, got it wrong.

DRC · Aug 20, 2009

LSUMASTERMIND said: ↑

They black guy with the AR-15 was part of some hoax, from what I read, but the gun was real.
But there was a white guy with an AR-15 on the other side of the street as well.
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I saw something on CNN about it and there is no question the guy in the MSNBC video is the black guy.

EDIT: You quote stuff after I reply. LOL

Thats what I saw on CNN though. I dont think it was a hoax as much as some group making a point and this black dude is part of that group.

LSUMASTERMIND · Aug 20, 2009

I never said he wasnt black?

DRC · Aug 20, 2009

LSUMASTERMIND said: ↑

I never said he wasnt black?
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I know, didnt mean to imply you did. :thumb:

SabanFan · Aug 20, 2009

Kennedy, Ford and Reagan were white so there goes that theory.

LSUMASTERMIND · Aug 20, 2009

DRC said: ↑

I saw something on CNN about it and there is no question the guy in the MSNBC video is the black guy.

EDIT: You quote stuff after I reply. LOL

Thats what I saw on CNN though. I dont think it was a hoax as much as some group making a point and this black dude is part of that group.
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Yea thats the samething I read, I was making the point that MSNBC didnt do any investigation in this instance, they got it wrong.

I dont think people should bring AR-15s to a townhall debate on healthcare, I for the right to bear arms. But whats the purpose of that action?

shaqazoolu · Aug 20, 2009

MSNBC is stupid.

Also, that is a very nice rifle. I want it. The scope he has on there is like $500 alone.

LaSalleAve · Aug 20, 2009

yeah but why bring guns. i know its your right, but was it a necessity?