Brent and Herbie talked about it. Duck fans were booing because they thought your defenders were faking injuries in order to rest, and recover. Last year, Tennessee, Stanford, California, Arizona State, Washington, UCLA, USC, Arizona to varying degrees, all faked injuries while playing against Oregon. A Cal coach was suspended for admitting he did this. Having said that, booing an injured player is disgraceful. But, think about it,... if Duck fans were happy that your player was hurt, would they boo? No they would cheer, like Wildcat fans did, when Dennis Dixon blew out his knee while playing in Arizona. Oregon fans weren't booing because a player was hurt, they were booing, because they believed,... he wasn't hurt. I wish Duck fans would stop it though, no one else seems to get the point, and it makes us seem like very poor sports.
We've conversed before, I made fun of you because I thought you had a bad attitude. I'll be serious this time. Realize, there are no good, "millions of people", and there are no bad, "millions of people". There are only people, individuals, being nice or not nice. If you have issues with all Oregonians, and all Washingtonians, and don't like Californians much either. Then it's unlikely, that you will be the life of the party, back in Louisiana either. It's probably because, you're not being friendly enough. Your problem is crystal clear to me. You're very unhappy, and you blame others. Go home,.... try and find some joy. Better yet, create some joy, where you are now,..... and give it to someone else. People will be drawn to you, and you will receive their joy in return. This is happiness..
Duck players were the ones sucking wind and cramping down the stretch not LSU. No need to fake injuries, conditioning wasn't a problem on our side. You've been a great visitor, but you seem to be the exception. The arrogance of most duck fans thinking that they are light years faster than anyone in the nation and that they are the only team with a conditioning program has been hilarious. All we have heard for months is how the Oregon offense would be running circles around our slow defenders and that our players would be passing out on the field from exhaustion from trying to keep up with the vaunted "blur" offense. The fact that such a large majority of duck fans absolutely believed that nonsense is absolutely comical. The booing of injured players was simply an extension of the belief in such an ignorant lie that they told themselves. Oregon is no faster than the average SEC team and certainly isn't any better conditioned. The sooner the majority of duck fans realize this the sooner they will quit making an azz out of themselves by booing injured players. JMO:thumb:
I explained the reasoning behind the booing, those are the facts. If you state differently, you are casting aspersions. Conditioning, I didn't see the Duck's sucking wind. The Duck's are well conditioned, we've had the same strength and conditioning coach for 28 years. We like him. Did our tempo work? No, wasn't a factor. Did we win? No, we lost. If you want me to say, that our system can't possibly win the National Championship. I won't, because I still believe. You won, you should be happier than me.
I'm not saying that OU isn't a very good team. I'm saying that the speed and conditioning is greatly overrated by your fan base. I didn't see the games you talk about so I'll have to take your word, but Saturday I saw nothing that would make an opposing team need to fake injuries. The very false belief that good teams would have to resort to that to keep up with the blah offense is what had OU fans booing. I didn't see AU faking injury nor did I see LSU fake any, it simply wasn't needed. It's extremely poor sportsmanship to boo injured players. If OU fans didn't have such a false view of how great their offense is there would have been no booing.
I hate speaking for her, but I too have heard her talk about this before and think you are misunderstanding what she's saying. She's not calling out the LSU fan base in NOLA. She's talking about the perception of OU fans being treated badly by ALL LSU fans after the 2003 BCS title game. Just so happens that game was in NOLA. She's not generalizing all LSU fans from the city, but LSU fans as a whole, who just happened to be in New Orleans for the game. I'm not sure if I'm adequately articulating what I'm trying to say. Does this make sense?
Yeah, what you say makes sense, but that's now how I read it or interpreted it. Maybe you are right, I don't know. From the other posts, it seems whatever behavior happened in N.O. happened in Dallas, too, and probably happens in BR, etc. She specifically said that she tells other OU fans that what they experienced in NOLA is not what they would experience in BR, and I don't think that is true. Certainly not a game of the magnitude of LSU v OU for the BCS NC w/an arrogant coach and all of the pre-game fan interactions and chain-yanking that would be going on. I think their experience would be exactly the same, irregardless of location. Now, maybe their car would not get broken into, and they may feel safer in BR, but any taunting or immature, drunken hostility would be exactly the same. Of course, I have not been in BR post-Katrina much, and I hear it more like N.O. crime-wise than ever before, so maybe that part would be the same, too, LOL.
Kids today grow up online being anonymous internet characters and they will literally say anything because there are no consequences. People who grew up in the era of face-to-face communication learned to develop some filters on what comes out of their mouths because there was always the likelihood of getting their asses whipped. It pays to shop around the internet forums and find the ones where more mature discussion happens.
You know, I went back and read it again, and I think you are right. I think what she is trying to say is that a regular game in BR would be a different experience than what they had in N.O. But, OU v LSU for a BCS NC would not be, in my estimation. I think the magnitude of the game, and the pre-game hoopla, and the alcohol, etc, etc, would make their experience exactly the same. I don't think I have been a jerk about this. If so, I apologize to LSUSooner. I was simply trying to defend the insinuation that LSU fans from N.O. were somehow worse than other places, but if that was misinterpreted or I came across as ugly about it, I do apologize.
This is turning into a good talk, I can see you are trying to wrap your mind around this, but you don't get it. So, we have a couple of gaps to bridge. About booing, see my post #32, this thread, that's my best effort so far. You said; I saw nothing that would make an opposing team need to fake injuries. I know, it didn't work. Going on 5 seasons, Oregon fans have watched the " blah " offense develop. We have seen it, we watch it destroy teams most every week, going on 5 years. Oregon fans have seen repeatedly, how the "blur" affects our opponents. You said; If UofO fans didn't have such a false view of how great their offense is It is not a false view, we have seen it, a lot. Your's is false because, as you say,"I saw nothing". We see this; Linemen getting so gassed they start to panic, because they know they can't compete on the next play, so they fall down. Laying on the ground gasping, a medic attends their "cramp", as someone else gives them water, they help him off the field. Guess what, all his teammates have been resting too. Next play the cramp is gone, and he trots back onto the field. This video shows the faking. Note the video is almost 14 minutes long. There are plenty of examples, but there's some BS in their too, the best example of faking is near the end. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ6B1Wn0L58"]Teams fake injuries vs. Oregon to slow the game - YouTube[/ame]
