BP Gulf Oil Spill

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  1. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Yes sir, if not naive, then perhaps misinformed. To you, an environmentalist is a Greenpeace nut singing Kumbayah. But I work in building full of about 150 professional environmental scientists who are not making dire pronouncements and blaming anyone. They have been spreading out teams over the marshes sampling water and soil to monitor the short and long-term effects on the fishing industry. They are monitoring satellite imagery to track and predict the spill. They are setting up wildlife cleaning stations and protecting rookeries with booms. Every research vessel on campus is in the water or heading to the water. They are not criticizing BP or the Federal government response efforts because we have seen what has already been put in place and is already snowballing. BP and the feds are going to be funding millions of dollars of research into this spill and its consequences and it has already started. BP is actually being very environmentally responsible about this incident so far.

    You kind of exaggerate the turtle stories. I checked. None of them blame the oil spill. All of them say that this is the time of year that dead turtles appear. And you forgot to mention that they are being seen at double the rate of normal years. None of them quote "environmentalists", they quote state wildlife officials.

    Yes it is a big news story, because all the news crews on are the Gulf coast looking for something to report. And they know that key words like "oil spill" will get a lot of hits today. But it is being reported truthfully by wildlife experts that the turtles are not oiled, that turtle strandings are natural, and that we don't yet know why numbers are up over normal years.

     
  2. Fishhead

    Fishhead Founding Member

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    Red, you sir,*****. Do not sit here and tell me I am making something up, embellishing, or anything of the sort. Do not tell me I am misinformed, then selectively post links to stories that halfheartedly support your side. Do not tell me what I THINK an environmentalist is. Do not assume you know what I have seen, read, heard, etc...
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    If you wanna talk about the environmentalists sampling the water and soil, please tell. I wanna know ALL about it. Tell me about the results of the samples. Tell me about all the animals they've found that have been affected. Until then, refrain from telling me what I think.
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    I think******* most of the time, but I have NEVER called you a liar. I can refute what you just said about me...and will. I too know how to get links...and I even know how to watch MY LOCAL CHANNELS, read MY LOCAL PAPER, etc...

    Deepwater Horizon oil spill: turtle deaths soar amid fight to save wildlife | Environment | The Guardian

    Ezra Klein - Thinking ahead on the oil spill

    Google "oil spill turtles" and simply read the headlines. The second link I posted...here's an excerpt from a comment below the article...

    ".......when i just saw a sea turtle being pulled out of the water, covered with oil, motionless and taut.....you just wonder"

    Whackos. There's a difference between environmentalist and environmentalist whackos. I know fully what the difference is.

    Nearly every single headline on the subject implies that these turtles are directly related to the spill. Even the headlines from the ones YOU posted imply it. You should know that the "naive" among us will read those headlines and run with it. THAT is a problem. Creative highlighting by you on the ones you quoted is just as bad. You only highlighted the parts where they are saying what you want to convey. You didn't bother to highlight the stuff that supports what I said.
     
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  3. Fishhead

    Fishhead Founding Member

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    Read the title of this article...what's the first 3 words??

    Gulf oil spill: 23 dead sea turtles wash ashore in Mississippi | Greenspace | Los Angeles Times

    GULF OIL SPILL! Then it goes on to talk about the dead turtles. If you think the naive among us aren't going to tie the two together, then you're one of them.

    Now, read this one...

    No oil contamination evidence found in 5 turtles | ajc.com

    NO OIL CONTAMINATION FOUND in the turtles that have had necropsies....
     
  4. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Well, actually we do.
     
  5. Nutriaitch

    Nutriaitch Fear the Buoy

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    well, in BPs defense, there has never been a catastrophic failure of a BOP like this.
    It just doesn't happen.


    told ya!

    BP owns the oil in that reservoir, so for the time being, this is there baby.

    But once BP can prove that either:
    Cameron's BOP was faulty
    Or installed wrong by Transocean
    Or human error by the Haliburton crew cementing the well

    BP will seek proper compensation from them.
     
  6. QBLuke

    QBLuke Hickey Da God

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    Selfish of me to say, but I'll say it: this sure doesn't bode well for me getting any crawfish this weekend. I have found a place here in NYC that flies them in every day, and I was planning on getting some on Friday as the prices were just starting to come down.

    Not looking good on that front, but more importantly, I hope they can stop this flow. Very bad situation for all involved. My thoughts are with those still on the gulf coast.
     
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  7. Nutriaitch

    Nutriaitch Fear the Buoy

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    a guy who was on the rig when it blew

    from my limited knowledge of what goes on on these rigs, this sounds legit


    Mark Levin
     
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  8. Fishhead

    Fishhead Founding Member

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    I haven't checked prices this week, but I fail to see how this event should have ANY impact on crawfish prices. Crawfish don't live in the affected waters...they live in freshwater...and mostly on crawfish farms.
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    I guess supply would go up since we can't get shrimp/oysters/etc...therefore driving up the prices.
     
  9. QBLuke

    QBLuke Hickey Da God

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    That assuages my concern a little bit (again not that this is something I'm seriously concerned with when weighted against the possibility of lives and livelihoods being affected), I was just worried about the availability and the price. Things had just gotten down to $7 a pound.

    They also serve Abita draft at this place by the way. If anyone's ever in the NY area shoot me a PM for details.


    Now back to our regularly scheduled thread on a very pressing matter.
     
  10. Fishhead

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    You need to MOVE!! I paid $1.39/lb a week ago...and I don't live in LA!
     

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