I hate calling out officials anytime; especially so after a win, but I'm going to anyway for the simple fact that we seem to be on the wrong side of it game after game. I'm not saying we didn't deserve a good portion of the penalties we got last night, but the ones in question seemed be at crucial times or extended drives that led to Bama point. For instance: - Roughing the passer for helmet to helmet contact. Replay contradicts call QB's head wasn't touched, and hit was not late. Led to a Bama TD on the next play. - Facemask penalty on Dorsey. Replay shows shoulder pads were grabbed...not facemask. (Extended a drive. Changes field position) - The illegal shift penalty on 4th down. Agreed it was a bonehead call to try that on 4th and inches, but Bama did the EXACT SAME THING against Tenn 2 weeks ago and they got the call. - 2 weeks ago against AU, the no-call on the Dorsey cheap shot with an official STARING at the play. AU also got away with at least 3 holding calls. Of course, every fan base can always point out bad calls that go against them. BAMA is still complaining about the Cadell catch reversal, but the point of the ball clearly touched the ground. And the Tolliver incompletion could've gone either way. But the calls, particularly no calls when our defense is held seems like it happens to us more so than most and I don't know why. And what about that ref. Geez, what a wild-eyed psycho. He looked like he was on a 3 day meth binge and was going to nut himself every time he called a penalty against us. At any rate, I think it says even more about our team's talent and will to win. Do you know how good you have to be to overcome 4th Q deficits ranked SEC opponents when shotty officiating is thrown into the mix? I also think some of these close games wouldn't be so close if the game was officiated properly. Do you guys see that same thing I see or am I just looking through P&G colored glasses?
There are two issues: 1. The SEC referees are not up to the level of football being played int he SEC and everybody agrees on this in every SEC school. If we can pay coaches $4 million, then we can pay officials well enough to hire some better ones away from the NFL. The team of refs we had last night is probably the best one in the SEC and they still blew some calls. At least the replay official wasn't a blind homer like we got at Auburn last year. 2. LSU makes WAY too many penalties and has done so for every year of the Les Miles era. We were #100 in 205 and #89 in 2006. LSU is currently #117 out of 119 Division I schools in fewest penalties! We will continue to lose judgement calls by the refs with this reputation. This is a coaching issue and Les MUST get a handle on it and fast. Too many personal fouls, damn it . . . bench those guys until they get the message coach. And find some offensive linemen who can count up to "hut three".
I think the Cadell call was really a close one, much tougher than the Tolliver call where it seemed like an incompletion to me with the replay. Otherall, the replay officials did quite a decent job; strongly suspect they are out of towners The pattern of the seemingly lopsided penalty call stats in the last several games don't lie, particularly in out of town games with the far lesser number of calls against opposing teams. Still, the penalty issue has got to be addressed and corrected. Then we will see the REAL Tiger team!
i agree. by actually commiting so many penalties, it is expected we will and any thing even perceived as a penalty will be called. we will not get the breaks. the only way to get out of that cycle is for the teams to break it by not committing so many. i agree with the personal fouls. some really bad mistakes that way really hurt in the ky game. last night we had the momentum until one was committed and that seemed to be what turned the mo int bama's favor and damn well could have cost us another game.
You'll find that called all the time, no matter who is officiating the game. He was leading with his helmet and that was the reason for the call, not whether or not there was helmet to helmet contact. That was a missed call. I can see how considering what area of the shoulder pads Dorsey grabbed. But, none-the-less a missed call. It wasn't the exact same thing. Our line shifted as did yours. Your RB was also in motion at the same time, ours wasn't. Another missed call. Like Red pointed out, it's a matter of lack of discipline. I noticed this note in another thread with some members pointing out the number of players Miles had kicked off the team as a rebuttal to the lack of discipline. Disciplined play is the key. I mentioned the same thing to tiga very early on in the season. My point to him was this...I see a lot of talent, but I'm also seeing signs of undiscipined play. In all sports teams play the way they practice. If they are practicing in the same fashion they are playing right now, you have to wonder why those foolish penalties aren't being addressed in practice. Considering Miles comments during the post game presser, I feel he sees it the same way considering he made the comment he isn't going to allow it to happen anymore. A lot of talent can overcome a lot of mental mistakes. Those mistakes can also be overcome with disciplined practices as well.
