JOE LEGAL vs. JOSE ILLEGAL

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  1. bayareatiger

    bayareatiger If it's too loud YOU'RE TOO OLD

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    JOE LEGAL vs. JOSE ILLEGAL

    You have two families: "Joe Legal" and "Jose Illegal".
    Both families have two parents, two children, and live in California .


    Joe Legal works in construction, has a Social Security Number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.


    Jose Illegal also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash "under the table".


    Ready? Now pay attention...


    Joe Legal: $25.00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week, or $52,000.00 per year.

    Now take 30% away for state and federal tax; Joe Legal now has $31,231.00.


    Jose Illegal: $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week, or $31,200.00 per year. Jose Illegal pays no taxes.

    Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00.

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    Joe Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year.

    Joe Legal now has $24,031.00.


    Jose Illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the state and local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year.

    Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.

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    Joe Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or welfare.
    Joe Legal pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6,000.00 per year.

    Joe Legal now has $18,031.00.


    Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps and welfare.

    Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.

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    Joe Legal pays rent of $1,200.00 per month, or $14,400.00 per year.

    Joe Legal now has $9,631.00.


    Jose Illegal receives a $500.00 per month federal rent subsidy.
    Jose Illegal pays out that $500.00 per month, or $6,000.00 per year.

    Jose Illegal still has $ 31,200.00.

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    Joe Legal pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for insurance.

    Joe Legal now has $7,231.00.


    Jose Illegal says, "We don't need no stinkin' insurance!" and still has $31,200.00.

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    Joe Legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, etc.


    Jose Illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, and what he sends out of the country every month.

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    Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.


    Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.

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    Joe Legal's and Jose Illegal's children both attend the same school.
    Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches while Jose Illegal's children get a government sponsored lunch.

    Jose Illegal's children have an after school ESL program.
    Joe Legal's children go home.

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    Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire services, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.

    Do you get it, now?


    If you vote for or support any politician that supports illegal aliens...

    You are part of the problem!

    It's way PAST time to take a stand for America and Americans!
     
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  2. PURPLE TIGER

    PURPLE TIGER HOPE is not a strategy!

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    And...

    Joe Legal has to show his driver's license to vote.

    Jose Illegal votes with no ID because the ACLU claims it's his right.

    This is sufficient enough reason for one party to continue supporting illegal aliens.
     
  3. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Joe Legal watches Fox News and he's pissed.

    Suzie Liberal watches NBC and thinks Joe Legal needs to give more of his earnings to Jose Illegal.
     
  4. bayareatiger

    bayareatiger If it's too loud YOU'RE TOO OLD

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    Pay up or get out.

    If you can't find the door, we'll help ya find it. :thumb:
     
  5. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    There are many problems with the logic in the OP. The biggest one is that the tax burden for a family making 52 K would not approach 30% even if SSI and Medicare are included, but otherwise at least the math is right.

    The problem with illegal immigration is that there is no soloution unless a guarded fence is on the border. Neither of the two teams is willing to take the political flack associated with erecting one.
     
  6. mobius481

    mobius481 Registered Member

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    Totally untrue. There are many other solutions but no one wants to allow them. Do not allow undocumented aliens to use services they don't pay for. Ramp up border raids and come down hard on people who employ them knowingly. There are hundreds of solutions but no one will sack up and enforce our laws.
     
  7. LSUDeek

    LSUDeek All That She Wants...

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    I can think of a solution:

    No legal ID/SSN/legal green card or work permit... no government provided services. No emergency room care, no dental care, no office visits. No rent subsidies, no food stamps.

    Which of course, is something that neither of the two teams are willing to take the "political flak" for. Eff that.... if I sneak into Mexico am I getting rent subsidies?

    However, we cannot get spending under control unless we take care of this massive problem. It's time to make the uncomfortable decision and cut all these services.
     
  8. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    I'm in. Good call Deek:thumb:
     
  9. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    I have another scenario for you....

    Joe Legal has a kid with Autism who has received medicare for 2 years to help with the cost of therapies that his child needs but it gets canceled because Jose Illegal also has a kid with Autism that the state must provide services for.
     
  10. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    I am about ready to give up on this country.
    From Immigration to socialism, politicians are just crap!
    I don't take this country, those who have served or died or what I say here litely either.

    My wife went into the school administration building here in Aurora, Co at her lunch break and the place was full of fill in the blank.
    They drive around here in new vehicles with big Mexican flags attached to them.
    They break the law when they come here, they show disrespect for our laws and our country and the politicians pander to them!


    Both parties are entrenched and no one outside of Tom Tancredo will do anything to fix these problems.
    Look at the way he is treated by the media and many others for his views.
    The wife and I had this very discussion last night.
    No one is willing to do the right thing and enforce the law.
    If we were to ever do any nation building maybe it should be in Mexico?
    Just a thought!
     

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