Good, Bad, and Ugly in Starkville

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  1. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Such is the nature of a power running team. The defense knows what is coming and they can't stop it. I think we will see more passing when we need it and for play diversity. But LSU is going to line up and come right at you this year. We are going to see a lot of man coverage on our receivers as teams load the box and we will be taking advantage of that. Harris will get better at checking off to a hot pass in such circumstances.

    You are going to love that 5 yards and a cloud of dust, clock-eating offense when we are up two scores and protecting a lead against Bama. The best opposing offenses in the world can't score when they are standing on the sidelines.

    That said, Cameron could have done better to post another score before grinding it out last night. It was too close.
     
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  2. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Because Les thinks his punter is an offensive weapon. If you solely rely on your running game, punter to flip the field, and then your defense, you are going to continually be in close games unless your defense creates turnovers. And if you are continually in close games odds are you are going to lose some of them.
     
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  3. LSUDieHard

    LSUDieHard Founding Member

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    I do love it in that scenario provided it produces a few first downs. Not so much when going 3 and out with a 2 point lead.
     
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    ThePhenom74 Founding Member

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    I can understand trying to run the ball to kill the clock when you have a lead. However a 14-0 lead is not enough to get uber conservative with the play calling. That kind of thinking all too often comes back to bite you in the ass, which it nearly did last night.

    The thing is with the power running game LSU uses is that it brings too many 3 and outs. Too often the runs are for either nothing or big yards. It's not like LSU was putting together a lot of clock grinding drives.
     
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  5. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    Les risks more by not allowing Harris to play a bit more. When you can grind a 7-10 minute drive, hell yes. When the best you can do is 4 minutes - no. The defense was getting tourched because Les was too conservative. Poor coaching.
     
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    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    Ding ding ding.
     
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    kluke Founding Member

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    Thank God the McNeese game was cancelled. Now I'll only have to read 11 versions of a teacher saying " Children, today's creative writing subject is why Les Miles is stupid. Be inVENTive "
     
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    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    You cannot consistently win in this league being 1 demnisional.
     
  9. ThePhenom74

    ThePhenom74 Founding Member

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    If you just mix in a throw here and there on first and ten you gonna make the D a bit unsure. Especially if you catch them for a big play or two. LSU doesn't do that.
     
  10. ParadiseiNC

    ParadiseiNC don't worry, be happy

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    Just got back from a bike ride in nice southeast fall weather. Agree w/many posts on here, good and bad.

    Clearly, CLM wanted to see what BH could do in the first quarter, then the game plan was to shift over to run first, and second downs, and maybe on third vs trying to ask the QB to make a first out of the blue. This was the strategy on the road against a purported quality SEC opponent in what is essentially the first real game in the BH era. I get that.

    The problem I have with that pre-set strategy is that it was clear we could do more and put the game out of reach early. This is where the stubbornness, lack of a frontal lobe, comes into play. It's okay sometimes to alter your preset game plan and deviate when it is clear what is working and not working, or as the flow of the game dictates a change of game plan is warranted. That is what is so frustrating and infuriating. Instead, we stick with the same game plan play after play, run the Ferrari into the wall and occasionally find an open field without using the steering wheel (love that analogy), and barely hang on for a win. I'm happy with the win, it's just a little too nerve racking for my liking.

    I'm curious what @bhelmLSU thinks about the frustrations being voiced, and whether some of the key players involved feel this way, too. Namely, BH and LF. Are some of the players of the mindset we should have passed more, or do they like that we have a set game plan and don't deviate from that at all? I feel Bhelm has more insight than most, and is usually pretty level headed in his opinions, too.

    During my bike ride, I was listening to Counting Crows and when he's singing "change, change, change", I could almost hear him singing "Shane, Shane, Shane"…………just saying'
     
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