It's supposed to be a FB thread, but he want to talk minor infractions (and he may find out that this particular little thing may be biting quite a number of teams - maybe even his own). Anyway, I'm bowing out. I run into to much of this stuff on rival sites when we're trying to talk football. Good night...
And why don't you see that as a huge disadvantage? :huh: There are three levels on a defense, DL, LB and secondary. 2/3's of our defensive alignment is deficient of talent, depth and experience. No, I don't see that as a major problem. Seems like you're perception is set of Bama so why discuss? The only reason we've been successful is because we cheat and y'all don't. The only reason we had success tonight was because y'all didn't play well. Not because we've improved from last season or have a better coach than the tool bag we had last season and the seasons before. Have a good night.
CParso is a fairly objective poster.. Changes in recruiting seems to have changed everything for alabama. You're a step up from last season for sure.
Your DLine & LB's aren't terrible, just not great. I'm not sure that you understand how debate type discussions work. You present your side, I present mine. You present your side, I present mine. I'm more than willing to change my mind if you present your case, but you haven't done much other than to say it's "obvious". I didn't say that. LSU fans aren't complaining about not having our back-up QB because we understand that he didn't deserve to be at the game. Alabama is clearly a much better team than last year, but they would've been even if Shula was still the coach. Regardless, Saban is certainly an upgrade. Alabama played well & that has nothing to do with LSU's mistakes. The score was closer than it would have been if LSU had been mistake-free. But that means nothing because we weren't mistake free. Alabama was very close to being mistake-free & deserves credit for that.
Geez, one last try. Last year you were facing the NFL ROY at LB - Demeco Ryans, and the runner up at DE, Mark Anderson. This year, our LB corps consisted of a true freshman, a walkon from MTSU and a converted WR. If yu can't understand that, then no one can get through to you. Good night, and I mean it this time...
When those guys were playing 2 years ago nobody knew that they'd be that good in the NFL just like you don't know how good these current guys will be down the road. It's just a poor argument.
I understand completely how "debate" works. I've watched this DL and LB's an entire year and have kept up with them for an entire offseason. I've observed the talent difference. How our DL gets pushed around because of how small they are. I've observed how our players are inexperienced and continuously miss assignments and are out of position. I've observed the athletic difference in other SEC teams DL's, LB's and ours. I've watched SEC team after team (including Houston) gash our defense with the run. So there's eye witness support of my assertions. Every expert in the world would tell you to run against bama. Doesn't that indicate some type of deficiency in the defense? And as for as the Shula statement that is pure speculation. Shula pulled defeat from the jaws of victory three times last season. So the comment of we'd been a good team anyway is B.S. along with speculation.
I'm certainly not trying to start fights around here or insult Bama fans. I would like to look further into the "Talent Issue." The team that was better prepared for the game usually makes fewer penalties and dumb mistakes. There's some evidence to show that LSU committed more penalties and threw more interceptions, so, maybe the argument that Bama was better prepared has some merit. With regard to the talent issue: I seem to recall some posts by Bama fans on this board back before the 2006 season. The posts were very complimentary of the state of Alabama football at that time, to include the level of talent on the team. Were the Bama posters wrong about the talent level in 2006? I'm wondering why Bama's talent was thought to be just fine in August of 2006, but was terrible in January, 2007, and is, today, judged by Bama fans to be way less than LSU's talent. I hope that I can be enlightened. PS I thought that it was fairly well agreed that Shula was a great recruiter. :huh:
But the discussion isn't how good they would be in the NFL. The discussion is about how good were they in college. They were damn good on the college level. It's not like they were mediocre on the college level and the NFL teams just felt sorry for them and drafted them. They were very good on the college level. Demeco Ryans and Mark Anderson were sure fire NFL players on the college level.
I will be glad to answer this question. While Shula was recruiting he did so without having a full allotment of schollies. Shula heavily recruited offensive skill players. DJ Hall, Keith Brown, McCoy, Caddell, JPW and offensive linemen. He paid next to no attention to the defensive side of the ball, using the limited schollies he had on offensive positions, sprinkling a few defensive players in here and there. None were that great. So as these players cycle through and the players ahead of them graduate we start to "feel" the void in the lack of defensive recruiting. Our offensive situation is above average because of Shula paying a lot of attention to the offense. So here we are in 2007 "reaping the benefits" of unbalanced recruiting. We've had to convert a WR to LB because we have little to no depth at LB and overloaded at WR. Our DLine is undersized and gets pushed around easy because (again) the lack of concern for getting good quality defensive players. But again, he was working with a limited number of schollies so he chose to go offensive intensive.
