Top 12 Football Programs Recruiting 2006-2016

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  1. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    Average 247Sports Composite Point Value:

    1. Alabama............ 288.23
    2. USC.................... 285.67
    3. Ohio State......... 279.01
    4. Florida............... 278.32
    5. LSU.................... 274.44
    6. Texas................. 273.99
    7. Georgia............. 270.99
    8. FSU.................... 269.50
    9. Notre Dame...... 262.18
    10. Auburn............ 255.54
    11. Oklahoma....... 253.28
    12. Michigan......... 247.91

    As a reference point, the team finishing #1 in the rankings has averaged roughly 300 points. So LSU is averaging about 91 % of the ceiling on an annual basis. It will be close to 92 % after the 2016 class is finished.

    UPDATED: Now includes final 2016 numbers.
     
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  2. kluke

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    So you might find this interesting. I took islstl's recruiting data and matched it the list of teams ranked by wins. Then I divided the # of wins by the recruiting score to get an idea of who gets the most out of their talent. The 3 columns (L,M,&N) on the right are the teams ranking by wins, recruiting score from islstl's 247 list above, and Wins/recruiting score.

    EXAMPLE - Florida is the 12th ranked team in number of wins at 94 wins (tied with Texas and Georgia); AND they are the #3 ranked team in recruiting with a composite score of 276.93; AND they are the 10 ranked team in number of wins divided by recruiting score with a value of .3394 ( 276.93/94). So they have not been good at utilizing talent.
    NOTE - Oregon, TCU, Wisconson, and VA Tech weren't even in the top 12 of recruiting, but they are in the top 10 in wins. Impressive use of talent.

    The list is ordered by number of wins - Boise is an outlier for this discussion
    Interesting points
    • Oregon has to be the best at utilizing talent because they are number 4 in wins but not in the top 12 in recruiting
    • Oklahoma gets the most out of its talent for the top 12 recruiters
    • LSU nudges out BAMA for #3 spot in talent utilization.
    • NOBODY wastes talent like Michigan and Notre Dame who aren't in the top 25 of wins

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  3. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    Oregon, Clemson and Penn State are most likely the next 3 teams in the list.
     
  4. locoguano

    locoguano You sweat, you die...

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    The only number that matters... average class ranking, #5, average end of the season ranking, #12.6 and 2.4 SEC loses per season. Seems there is some disconnect...
     
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  5. P&G_wheelz007

    P&G_wheelz007 Football anyone?

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    We're 5th in recruiting but 13th in results on the field.....
     
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  6. Brian

    Brian Founding Member

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    It's R&D, folks. Recruit and development.

    We're rather adept if not borderline brilliant at the first half of that equation.

    The second, well, we all know the results speak for themselves both in on-field performance and wins.
     
  7. mobius481

    mobius481 Registered Member

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    Most players in the NFL of any school. We're damn good at both. Just because we don't win an NC every year doesn't mean we don't develop well.
     
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  8. Brian

    Brian Founding Member

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    Many of the players see greater success at the next level. james Wright couldn't get on the field as a WR at LSU.. has in the NFL. We develop certain positions well and send players to the league no doubt, especially at running back, but the OL and QB spots for example have been major whiffs until recently under Miles next level. They usually get there on talent and Moffitt.

    Regardless, look at Bama which does a better job of developing them at the collegiate level even if they don't send quite as many to the pros and quite as spectacularly.

    Jarvis and Odell basically worked out constantly on their own time together trying to beat each other out with one-handed and difficult catches. That was a statement to who they are as competitors and players not their coaching up.
     
  9. mobius481

    mobius481 Registered Member

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    I don't get it. Bama has had the number 1 recruiting class almost every year since saban got there so they have more talent, they send less guys to the pros, yet they still develop better than us. That's just not true. You're so close to the program that you remember guys we miss on. So do I. Davenport, shepard, J. Lee, but what you don't realize is that Bama has a ton of those guys too.
     
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  10. Brian

    Brian Founding Member

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    I think they develop them better for college not the pros. We develop guys, yes, and certainly at a high clip with specific position groups leading the charge (RB, WR, DB), but overall as a program on the whole we're not doing a great job at developing them for right now. Urban Meyer got ripped for getting his guys prepared for college and not the pros for example at Florida. We kind of do the opposite.
     

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